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    Quote Originally Posted by villager View Post
    It makes me so bloody angry.....it doesn't have to be this way.

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    In 2001 the population of the UK was estimated to be 59.1 million with 4.9 million (8.3%) foreign born. By 2011 the population of the UK had increased by 4.1 million to 63.2 million with the foreign born population at 8 million (12.6%). In 2015, the population of the UK was estimated to be around 65 million.
    https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/key-topics/population

    You can't have a population growth as England has and not build hospitals and housing to cover the increase.

    Of course the hospitals are in chaos, we are closing A&E's not increasing them, simple mathematics. There is no investment in infrastructure, unless that investment comes it will only get worse.

    In London I know of 5 A&E's that have closed, and that is only in West, NW London.
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    If you looked at the NHS as a business you'd make it insolvent.

    Headed by an incompetent with no experience
    Wasteful management
    Poor supply procurement
    A talent pool that's drying up
    Staff that are employed unhappy and in some cases striking
    SLA's not met
    Customers unhappy
    No plan for future

    For me it's a rip up and start again job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moyesie View Post
    If you looked at the NHS as a business you'd make it insolvent.

    Headed by an incompetent with no experience
    Wasteful management
    Poor supply procurement
    A talent pool that's drying up
    Staff that are employed unhappy and in some cases striking
    SLA's not met
    Customers unhappy
    No plan for future

    For me it's a rip up and start again job.
    Of course it would be yes, and the way you and your mates want to do it is in exactly the same way they do itin the states. Poor can fuck off and basically die, low income can have a little basic medicare whilst the rest can line the pockets of the financial industry through insurance schemes.

    Nice one Moysie, its no wonder I despise Tories and those who vote for them with a passion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raefil View Post
    Of course it would be yes, and the way you and your mates want to do it is in exactly the same way they do itin the states. Poor can fuck off and basically die, low income can have a little basic medicare whilst the rest can line the pockets of the financial industry through insurance schemes.

    Nice one Moysie, its no wonder I despise Tories and those who vote for them with a passion.
    Your interpretation of what is written is truly staggering.

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    The list of 66 A&E and maternity units being hit by cuts
    We reveal the dozens of maternity and A&E units which have been closed or downgraded since 2010 and the dozens more now under threat.

    Accident & Emergency closures and downgrades since May 2010

    Downgraded:

    Hammersmith, west London September 2014

    Central Middlesex Hospital, north London, September 2014

    Chase Farm, north London December 2013

    Wycombe Hospital, Buckinghamshire downgraded from an emergency medical centre which took some ambulance cases to a minor injuries unit, October 2012

    Trafford Hospital, Greater Manchester, November 2013.

    Queen Elizabeth II, Welwyn Garden City, A&E services reduced to 12 hours a day in January 2012, with minor injuries service overnight. From Oct 1 2014, no A&E but 24-hour urgent care centre dealing with minor injuries and illnesses.

    Queen Mary’s Sidcup, south east London, temporarily closed winter 2010, officially downgraded in October 2013

    Cheltenham Hospital, Gloucestershire July 2013

    St Cross Hospital, Rugby, September 2013

    Stafford Hospital, closed overnight, December 2011.

    Newark Hospital, Nottinghamshire, April 2011

    Rochdale Infirmary, Greater Manchester, April 2011

    Maidstone Hospital, Kent, September 2011

    Downgrades agreed but not yet implemented

    Wansbeck Hospital, Northumbria, due mid 2015

    North Tyneside Hospital, North Shields, due mid 2015

    King George’s Hospital, Ilford, due 2015

    Dewsbury Hospital, west Yorkshire due 2017

    City Hospital, Birmingham, due 2017-18

    Sandwell Hospital, Birmingham, due 2017-18

    Closed:

    University Hospital of Hartlepool August 2011, urgent care centre opened elsewhere in the town

    A&E downgrades or closures now planned or under consideration

    Calderdale Royal Hospital, Halifax, west Yorkshire, preferred option was to close A&E earlier this year - public consultation delayed

    Bedford or Milton Keynes; decision on preferred option to scale back could come this month

    North Manchester Hospital, Fairfield Hospital, and Tameside Hospitals - proposals to close emergency surgery, so A&E patients likely to require it will be diverted to more major centres

    Two or three of four hospitals - Wythenshaw, Stepping Hill, Royal Bolton and Royal Albert Edward Infirmary, Wigan – are proposed to lose emergency surgery

    Lincoln, Grantham and Boston hospitals, Lincolnshire; plans to reduce the number of sites with full A&E

    Basingstoke Hospital, Hampshire and Royal Hampshire County Hospital, Winchester; proposals to centralise services – possibly at a new hospital – will be consulted on later this year

    Royal Shrewsbury Hospital and Telford Hospital – proposals under discussion could lead to loss of full A&E from one of the hospitals

    Alexandra Hospital, Redditch, proposals still to go to public consultation, but officials seeking to downgrade to an emergency centre, with major emergencies diverted to Worcestershire Royal Hospital and an emergency centre at the Alexandra Hospital.

    Ealing, no decision taken, timetable likely to mean changes in 2017/18, if agreed

    Charing Cross no decision taken, timetable likely to mean changes in 2017/18, if agreed

    Maternity closures and downgrades since May 2010

    Consultant-led units closed:

    King George’s Hospital, Ilford, March 2013

    Chase Farm, North London, November 2013

    Rochdale, Greater Manchester June 2011

    Salford, Greater Manchester, November 2011, replaced with midwife-led unit which may now be closed

    Bury, Greater Manchester, March 2012

    Queen Mary’s Sidcup, Kent, temporary closure September 2010, became permanent October 2013

    QEII Hospital, Welwyn, October 2011

    Consultant-led units replaced by midwife-led units:

    Sandwell Hospital, Birmingham, January 2011,

    Solihull Hospital, Birmingham, temporary closure in April 2010, midwife led unit set up in July 2010

    Eastbourne District General Hospital, temporarily from May 2013, decision not to reopen taken in June 2014 .

    Maidstone Hospital, Kent, September 2011

    Friarage, Northallerton, North Yorkshire, consultant-led unit closed October 6, being replaced with midwife led unit

    Midwife-led units closed:

    Darley Birth Centre, Matlock, Derbyshire, July 2012

    Corbar Birth Centre in Buxton, Derbyshire, July 2012

    Canterbury Hospital, Kent, May 2012

    Buckland Hospital, Dover, Kent May 2012

    Castle Hill Hospital, Cottingham, near Hull closed temporarily in 2011, permanently, January 2012

    Grantham Hospital, Lincolnshire, February 2014.

    Heatherwood Hospital, Ascot, Berkshire – closed temporarily September 2011, permanently in February 2012

    Maternity unit downgrades or closures now planned or under consideration

    Bishop Auckland Hospital’s midwife-led unit, Country Durham, closed on safety grounds since July 2013, future uncertain

    Salford Royal midwife-led unit, under review

    North Tyneside midwife-led unit planned for closure

    Proposals to replace consultant-led units with midwife led units:

    Stafford Hospital

    Dewsbury and District Hospital, West Yorkshire

    Alexandra Hospital, Redditch, Worcestershire

    Bedford or Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire

    Pilgrim Hospital, Boston or Lincoln, Lincolnshire

    University Hospital Lewisham

    Ealing

    Basingstoke

    Royal Hampshire County, Winchester

    Mayday Hospital, Croydon; Kingston, south west London; St George’s, south London; and St Helier, Sutton – proposals which could lead to fewer consultant-led units and more

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/heal...t-by-cuts.html
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    I don't see Chorley in the list above, so it isn't up to date, wonder how many more cuts not listed?

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../hosp-m07.html
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    Staggering

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    Quote Originally Posted by raefil View Post
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    Not really......

    Crisis? What crisis?

    They promised us austerity and that's the one thing they're delivering.......and yet they're still popular with the electorate: now that's what's staggering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNEESSEX View Post
    Not really......

    Crisis? What crisis?

    They promised us austerity and that's the one thing they're delivering.......and yet they're still popular with the electorate: now that's what's staggering.
    and now this!!!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-38557843


    The national debt is rising by the day yet our services are being cut massively so where exactly is this money going to Jake?
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