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    Quote Originally Posted by Moyesie View Post
    Surely Southern Rail are starting to breach their contract to provide the service now?

    The government should tell Southern Rail they've got 30 days to resolve the dispute or they lose the contract. Then tell the Union it's employees are employed by Southern Rail, and if they don't negotiate, Southern Rail will lose the contract and they'll all be out of a job. Pretty sure they'll find an agreement fairly quickly.

    That could then re-open the re-nationalisation discussion. I may surprise a few people here but I'm actually pro nationalisation of transport!
    Me too, Southern Rail are consistently bad, cancelling trains, and and causing mayhem on their routes.

    The industrial action is political though, an attempt to bring down the Tories, I doubt it will work. RMT have called another strike on the tube, this time about working conditions. This won't do labour any good, as they will lose labour votes in the SE, and London is almost majority labour in many boroughs and the public aren't behind the strikes, they have had enough..

    Hundreds of Tube engineers who maintain the train fleets, including Night Tube, are to be balloted for strike action in a new row over working conditions.

    This is in addition to the dispute among station and ticket staff who took part in a 24-hour strike on Monday causing widespread disruption across the network.

    A Transport for London spokesman said: “The RMT is balloting for unnecessary strike action, this time involving train maintenance staff, without seeking to resolve these issues with us.

    “We urge the RMT to meet with us for talks rather than threatening needless strike action.”
    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...-a3437661.html


    Footage of Sean Hoyle, the president of the RMT, emerged at the weekend, in which the official said unions are co-ordinating strikes to "bring down this bloody working-class-hating Tory government".

    At a meeting in Brighton, in September, Hoyle referred to reports that some unions were co-ordinating to bring the government down. He said: “Shock horror. Guess what? We bloody are.”

    The union official quoted Bob Crow, the late RMT leader, by saying: “If you spit on your own they just wipe it away. But if we all spit together we can drown the bastards."

    He added: “Any trade unionist with any sense wants to bring down this bloody working-class-hating Tory government. That's what we want to do. That's what we're about."
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    Quote Originally Posted by outreacher View Post
    Me too, Southern Rail are consistently bad, cancelling trains, and and causing mayhem on their routes.

    The industrial action is political though, an attempt to bring down the Tories, I doubt it will work. RMT have called another strike on the tube, this time about working conditions. This won't do labour any good, as they will lose labour votes in the SE, and London is almost majority labour in many boroughs and the public aren't behind the strikes, they have had enough..



    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...-a3437661.html

    "unions are co-ordinating strikes to "bring down this bloody working-class-hating Tory government".



    What an excellent sentiment........ Other Countries coordinate their industrial action but we usually just take it up the arse.... I appreciate that it's affecting peoples lives but how else could it be expected to achieve anything?...Perhaps those people that are being affected might pay attention to it all rather than just have a pop at bloody minded Unions.

    Fuck the Tories........ and more Unions joining in gets my long overdue appreciation because collective action ( for the right reasons ) is what might actually make the cunts at the top sit up an listen......or better still....just fuck off .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberation View Post
    "unions are co-ordinating strikes to "bring down this bloody working-class-hating Tory government".



    What an excellent sentiment........ Other Countries coordinate their industrial action but we usually just take it up the arse.... I appreciate that it's affecting peoples lives but how else could it be expected to achieve anything?...Perhaps those people that are being affected might pay attention to it all rather than just have a pop at bloody minded Unions.

    Fuck the Tories........ and more Unions joining in gets my long overdue appreciation because collective action ( for the right reasons ) is what might actually make the cunts at the top sit up an listen......or better still....just fuck off .
    Thing is Lib, it won't affect anything other than commuters in the SE and London, who aren't particularly fond of ASLEF, and RMT, it just more of the same, they have had months and months of it.

    People up north or the midlands or outside the south east don't give a toss as it doesn't affect them. The Tories don't give a fuck as the commuters are blaming the unions...

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...-a3437651.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by outreacher View Post
    Thing is Lib, it won't affect anything other than commuters in the SE and London, who aren't particularly fond of ASLEF, and RMT, it just more of the same, they have had months and months of it.

    People up north or the midlands or outside the south east don't give a toss as it doesn't affect them. The Tories don't give a fuck as the commuters are blaming the unions...

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...-a3437651.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by outreacher View Post
    Thing is Lib, it won't affect anything other than commuters in the SE and London, who aren't particularly fond of ASLEF, and RMT, it just more of the same, they have had months and months of it.

    People up north or the midlands or outside the south east don't give a toss as it doesn't affect them. The Tories don't give a fuck as the commuters are blaming the unions...

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...-a3437651.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberation View Post
    For now....
    Whatever the RMT say, it was the same under Labour, and we had Livingstone in charge of TFL.

    https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/pr...ff-tube-strike

    Under Bob Crow and labour it was the same as it is now under a Tory government...
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    Today protestors blocked the A583 for several in protest against Fracking. That straw seems to be getting heavier by the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outreacher View Post
    Whatever the RMT say, it was the same under Labour, and we had Livingstone in charge of TFL.

    https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/pr...ff-tube-strike
    And? Because of that they shouldnt stand up?

    Wakey wakey. blame game Outy lad, its how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raefil View Post
    And? Because of that they shouldnt stand up?

    Wakey wakey. blame game Outy lad, its how it works.
    They can do what the fuck they want, but it will cost Labour, and whatever happens, driver only trains are coming on every line, and driver-less trains will be here soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outreacher View Post
    They can do what the fuck they want, but it will cost Labour, and whatever happens, driver only trains are coming on every line, and driver-less trains will be here soon enough.
    Its not about labour nor tory, its about whats right and wrong, Libs hit the nail smack on the head when he said its about time we all stopped taking it up the arse and doing something about it. I remember you saying the same about us northerners regarding fracking.
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