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    Quote Originally Posted by sofaofthedamned View Post
    As he owns the forum he's quite capable of looking at it without being visible. Not having a go at the bloke, he's paying real money to keep it going, I just don't know his motivation.

    So here's the point - i'm happy to take the cost of the forum/hosting etc from him and leave the moderation to the team that do it now. It's probably about 2 days of my time to do it properly, which I don't mind, but we need to move to a model where we're not dependant on a single individual to sort shit out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Regardless View Post
    Well done sofa. Good initiative.

    Would be a shame to lose the history... but as you say, enough is enough... but perhaps 2 suggestions. 1/ I would suggest a 6-week "ultimatum" to the current owner to see if this brings it to a head and 2/Perhaps put up a (public) poll asking if people would be happy to lose the history in order to get a modern forum... making very clear what the prognosis is if we "do nothing" (i.e... if it's fairly likely the whole thing will fall over at some point, then we should say so).

    I would definitely vote 'yes' and become a patron. A clean start would be ok with me.
    Going back a good few years, did Wattie not hand over the site to the current admin?

    The current admin and Jimbo did a great job with this site. At the time, they developed it and brought it up to date. It doesn't make sense why it is being left to die.

    As for paying the fees for the site, the patrons must surely pay a very good portion of it with their yearly donations. If the patrons stopped paying, would the admin carry on funding it himself?

    If the site folds, we would lose all the history and some and the posts of some very special people who are sadly no longer with us, therefore it is quite important to try hard to work with the current owner. Someone must know Dai or be in touch with him. Please plead with him to do the right thing.

    If the site is not passed on and folded anyway, we would lose all the history, so it is probably worth making a new site just in case.

    Billymac is also worth talking to as he is another lad who kindly offered his time and money to get the site up and running again.

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    Surely someone who goes online and owns a site like this is on Facebook, Twitter instergram etc??? No?
    Oh let me get my hands on those .....

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    Droidspeak

    Droidspeak is a language consisting of beeps and other synthesized sounds used by some*droid*characters, such as*R2-D2*and*BB-8.[1]Burtt created R2-D2's dialogue in the original*Star Wars with an*ARP 2600*analog synthesizer*and by processing his own vocalizations via other effects.[17]*In*The Force Awakens, BB-8's dialogue was created by manipulating the voices of*Bill Hader*and*Ben Schwartz*with a*talkbox*running through a sound effects application on an*iPad.[18]Although droidspeak is generally unintelligible to the viewing audience, it appears to be understood by characters such as*Luke Skywalker.

    Ewokese

    The*Ewoks*of the forest moon of*Endor*speak a "primitive dialect" of one of the more than six million other forms of communication that*C-3PO*is familiar with. Ben Burtt,*Return of the Jedi’s sound designer, created the Ewok language.

    On the commentary track for the DVD of*Return of the Jedi, Burtt identified the language that he heard in the BBC documentary as*Kalmyk Oirat, a tongue spoken by the isolated nomadic*Kalmyks. He describes how, after some research, he identified an 80-year-old Kalmyk*refugee. He recorded her telling folk stories in her native language, and then used the recordings as a basis for sounds that became the Ewok language and were performed by voice actors who imitated the old woman's voice in different styles. For the scene in which C-3PO speaks Ewokese, actor*Anthony Daniels*worked with Burtt and invented words, based on the Kalmyk recordings.[19]

    Marcia Calkovsky of Lethbridge University maintains that Tibetan language contributed to Ewok speech*along*with Kalmyk, starting the story from attempts to use language samples of Native Americans and later turning to nine Tibetan women living in San Francisco area, as well as one Kalmyk woman.[20]*The story of the choice of these languages is referenced to Burtt's 1989 telephone interview, and many of the used Tibetan phrases translated. The initial prayer Ewoks address to C-3PO is actually the beginning part of Tibetan Buddhist prayer for the benefit of all sentient beings, or so called*brahmavihāras or*apramāṇas, but also there is a second (out of four) part of the*refuge prayer. People of the*Tibetan diaspora*were puzzled as many of the phrases they could make out did not correlate to events on screen.

    Greedo's dialogue

    In the original*Star Wars*film,*Greedo*speaks an unspecified alien language, which is understood by*Han Solo.[21]*Bruce Mannheim described Greedo as speaking "morphologically well-formed" phrases of*Southern Quechua, though the sentence is ultimately meaningless. Allen Sonnefrank, a Quechua speaker and*linguistic anthropology*student at*University of California, Berkeley, claimed*Lucasfilm*contacted him to record Quecha dialogue for the film. Because he was told the dialogue was to be played backward for the film, Sonnefrank refused to record the dialogue, feeling it to be a "potentially exploitative move best made by one whose first language was Quechua, if at all".[22]

    Huttese

    Another*lingua franca*in the*Star Wars*Universe that is spoken by many groups and species is*Huttese, spoken on*Nal Hutta,*Nar Shaddaa,*Tatooine*and other worlds in and around Hutt space. It is spoken in the films by both non-humans (Jabba the Hutt,*Watto,*Sebulba*and others) and humans. In fact, the whole*Max Rebo Band*communicates and sings in Huttese. Its phonology is said to be based on the*Quechuan languages.[23]

    Jawaese and Jawa trade language

    The*Jawas, also found on Tatooine, speak in a high-pitched, squeaky voice. To speak to others of their species along with the voice they emit a smell showing their emotions. When trading droids and dealing with non-Jawas they speak without the smell because many consider the smell "Foul."

    Mando'a

    The Mandalorian script was created for displays in*Attack of the Clones.

    A written form of the*Mandalorian*language was developed by Metschan for the display screens of*Jango Fett's ship*Slave I*in*Attack of the Clones,[5]*and it was later reused in*The Clone Wars*and*Rebels.[24][25]*Composer Jesse Harlin, needing lyrics for the choral work he wanted for the 2005*Republic Commando*video game, invented a spoken form, intending it to be an ancient language. It was named*Mando'a*and extensively expanded by*Karen Traviss, author of the*Republic Commando*novel series.[26]

    Mando'a is characterized as a primarily spoken,*agglutinative language*that lacks*grammatical gender*in its nouns and pronouns.[27][28]*The language is also characterized as lacking a*passive voice, instead primarily speaking in*active voice.[27]It is also described as having three*grammatical tenses—present,*past, and*future—but it is said to be often vague and its speakers typically do not use tenses other than the present.[27][29]*The language is described as having a*mutually intelligible*dialect called Concordian spoken on the planet Concord Dawn, as stated in the Traviss' novels*Order 66*and*501st,[30][31]*and a dialect spoken on Mandalore's moon Concordia is heard in "The Mandalore Plot", a season two episode of*The Clone Wars.[32]

    Sith

    The Sith language, intended to be spoken by*Sith*characters, was created by Ben Grossblatt for the*Book of Sith, published in February 2012. Development on the language and accompanying writing system began in November 2010. Grossblatt sought to create a pronounceable language that was not "cartoonish" and "would conform to the patterns of principles of [human] [sic] language. He felt that it needed to "feel martial and mystical" and be a "suitable, aesthetically-pleasing vehicle for communication". He characterized the sound of the language as "tough—but not barbarous" and as "convey[ing] a kind of confident, elegant cruelty". To achieve "formal, quasi-military" and "imposing, undeniable" qualities, he preferred*closed syllables, creating brisk and choppy words, and constructed the language as*agglutinative.[33]

    Shyriiwook

    Shyriiwook, also known as Wookieespeak,[3]*is a language consisting largely of roars and growls spoken by*Wookiee*characters, notably*Chewbacca. Non-Wookiee characters are capable of understanding Shyriiwook, such as Chewbacca's friend*Han Solo.[22]*Chewbacca's dialogue was created from recordings of*walruses,*camels, bears, and*badgers*from Burtt's personal sound library. One of the most prominent elements was an*American black bear*living in the*Happy Hollow Park & Zoo*in*San Jose, California. These sounds were*mixed*in different ratios to create different roars.[34]

    Tusken Raiders

    The*Tusken Raiders*of*Tatooine, according to the video game*Knights of the Old Republic, speak a language of their own; it is difficult for non-Tuskens to understand this language. In the game, a droid named*HK-47*assists the player in communicating with the Tusken Raiders. In the novelizations Junior Jedi Knights and New Jedi Order series, it is revealed that Jedi Knight Tahiri Veila was raised by the Tusken Raiders after they captured her in a raid. Generally, they utter roars and battle cries when seen in public.

    Ubese

    Ubese is a language heard in*Return of the Jedi*during a scene where a disguised*Princess Leia*bargains with Jabba the Hutt through translator C-3PO. Leia repeats the same Ubese phrase three times, translated differently in subtitles and by C-3PO each time.*David J. Peterson, linguist and creator of constructed languages, cited his attempt as a young fan to reconcile this apparent impossibility as an example of how even casual fans may notice errors in fictional constructed languages.[35]*He characterized Ubese as a "sketch" of a language rather than a fully developed language and categorized it as a "fake language" intended to "give the impression of a real language in some context without actually being a real language".[36]Ultimately, he criticized Ubese as "poorly constructed and not worthy of serious consideration".[37]
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    Preach, have you ever had a thread thats run to 11 pages and counting before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raefil View Post
    Its 2 years 3 months since Dai vaider last logged into this forum, and its nearly 3 years since his last post.
    Isn't there a possibility that he's unfortunately deceased?
    And now, the end is near...

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    Quote Originally Posted by We8PNE View Post
    Isn't there a possibility that he's unfortunately deceased?
    Bit out of order that We8, mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raefil View Post
    Bit out of order that We8, mate.
    No offence intended.
    And now, the end is near...

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    Quote Originally Posted by raefil View Post
    Preach, have you ever had a thread thats run to 11 pages and counting before?
    Found this bud. http://www.pne-online.net/forum/show...-you-defect-to
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    Quote Originally Posted by raefil View Post
    Bit out of order that We8, mate.
    Stupid git isn't he, needs a good slap on the bottom, and a kick in the schnads.
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    Ive setup a new forum following sofas suggestions. Ive got a bit of technical knowledge but nowhere near as much as sofa seems to, so im open to advice or suggestions from anyone. I'm happy to cover the ongoing cost of new forum and leave moderation upto the current mods. If people want to wait and see what happens with this forum i understand, just set it up as an alternative. Anyway the new forum can be found at the-gentry.org

    Alex

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