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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberation View Post
    Interesting aside ( but connected to this subject )............. Hands up all those who have days/weeks where they feel down,worry about everything and think everythings going wrong and can't see a way out?..........And then have days/weeks where you have the very same problems yet don't give a tom tit and don't give them a second thought? I certainly do but I'm dam sure I don't have mental health issues, I just assume it's normal... Why does it happen for no apparent reason though?.......

    Multiply those feelings by a factor of 5 or 10 and I can understand why some folk get suicidal...Maybe most of us aren't that far away from having serious issues..Weird thing is the brain.
    I see what your saying, but we are talking about repeat attempts, about people that have no chance of a decent future. people have have suffered for years. It's not about just walking in and getting an injection. There are processes, legal lines to be done. We talking about people being able to decide instead of having to put people through the hell of picking up the mess. Trust me its really hard to try and take your own life, it's never a spare of the moment, I know I have tried and failed. But if I could choose to go without suffering, without putting people through hell, I would choose that. Mental Health has many depths, people should not be allowed to walk in on the street, people should not be offered it, we talking about people that want to go doing it peacefully and at a time of their choosing. People on masses amount of meds, people in and out of Mental health and A&E etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FootballcrazyP_ View Post
    I see what your saying, but we are talking about repeat attempts, about people that have no chance of a decent future. people have have suffered for years. It's not about just walking in and getting an injection. There are processes, legal lines to be done. We talking about people being able to decide instead of having to put people through the hell of picking up the mess. Trust me its really hard to try and take your own life, it's never a spare of the moment, I know I have tried and failed. But if I could choose to go without suffering, without putting people through hell, I would choose that. Mental Health has many depths, people should not be allowed to walk in on the street, people should not be offered it, we talking about people that want to go doing it peacefully and at a time of their choosing. People on masses amount of meds, people in and out of Mental health and A&E etc.

    I think I understand what you're saying and I couldn't possibly disagree with you because I'm not in your situation...... You're talking about a long term contract whereby you stipulate your reasons, are regularly assessed and then allowed to die peacefully at the end of the agreed term if you still felt the same way?... ( please correct me if I've misunderstood )


    If you did that then there would be quite a large number of PNE supporters that would miss you dearly on the matchday thread...Maybe you don't realise how much you're appreciated..Even if it's only for a couple of hours a week...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberation View Post
    I think I understand what you're saying and I couldn't possibly disagree with you because I'm not in your situation...... You're talking about a long term contract whereby you stipulate your reasons, are regularly assessed and then allowed to die peacefully at the end of the agreed term if you still felt the same way?... ( please correct me if I've misunderstood )


    If you did that then there would be quite a large number of PNE supporters that would miss you dearly on the matchday thread...Maybe you don't realise how much you're appreciated..Even if it's only for a couple of hours a week...
    lol, maybe, but think how many Lashers would be a head of me in the Queue.
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    I was reading about a lad in Leeds earlier this month. Went to the hospital and begged for help. They were under staffed and couldn't find a bed for him so had to refer him back to his GP.

    Threw himself in front of a car on his way home and died a few days later.

    Horrific story but shows the pressure that is put on the NHS and it's impact on MH treatments

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddysr View Post
    I was reading about a lad in Leeds earlier this month. Went to the hospital and begged for help. They were under staffed and couldn't find a bed for him so had to refer him back to his GP.

    Threw himself in front of a car on his way home and died a few days later.

    Horrific story but shows the pressure that is put on the NHS and it's impact on MH treatments


    It also shows how the NHS should never be underfunded...... It's the backbone of this Country,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberation View Post
    It also shows how the NHS should never be underfunded...... It's the backbone of this Country,
    Won't hear any arguments from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddysr View Post
    I was reading about a lad in Leeds earlier this month. Went to the hospital and begged for help. They were under staffed and couldn't find a bed for him so had to refer him back to his GP.

    Threw himself in front of a car on his way home and died a few days later.

    Horrific story but shows the pressure that is put on the NHS and it's impact on MH treatments
    Quote Originally Posted by Liberation View Post
    It also shows how the NHS should never be underfunded...... It's the backbone of this Country,
    It's not just about Funding, (although I do 100% agree) but it's also privatising as well. When Companies are putting Profits ahead of Patient care. It's bad here in Essex, they meant to be stripping EPUT of their contract and they have been allowed to resubmit a bid. WTF. Family Mosaic have sold off their Hostels that had waiting lists and it's becoming Affordable flats and posh Flats. Affordable at £300k. But on the Plus side, if I do end up in hospital, I can do my shopping as they plan to build a Shopping centre onto the Hospital, A WHSmiths, Burger place and More, there was rumours of a Wilkinsons. Might as well have a Pub, Betting Shop and casino whilst we had it. All in the name of profit that the NHS will not see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paddysr View Post
    I was reading about a lad in Leeds earlier this month. Went to the hospital and begged for help. They were under staffed and couldn't find a bed for him so had to refer him back to his GP.

    Threw himself in front of a car on his way home and died a few days later.

    Horrific story but shows the pressure that is put on the NHS and it's impact on MH treatments
    No one can argue about funding issues that is a real problem that most of us would agree on.

    One of the biggest drains on services, however, is actually the people who want to access it. Not all of those people have a definable/diagnosable/treatable mental health problem. Some have personality disorders/psychopathy and others have milder mental health issues 'the worried well' that don't need secondary care input. We've also stopped offering a dual diagnosis (mental health and addiction) service so clients of this nature tend to get bounced between services. Chicken and egg type stuff.
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