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  • Originally posted by Tino View Post
    So was it all up front or just not linked to milestones? I was led to believe it was all guaranteed but as with 99% of transfers its paid over the length of the contract. Id be surprised it the Hugill transfer was in the 1%.



    I agree, I just like to ask probing questions.

    It took them 5 seasons btw, I think we should afford the club the same before we start praising Huddersfield for doing stuff after pocketing at least 200M
    It was one lump sum up front.
    No wums please - low patience threshold

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    • The Training Ground saga has become like Brexit, iv'e lost interest.

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      • Originally posted by Joanpne View Post
        It was one lump sum up front.
        Dave Seddon also said this in a live LEP online chat earlier this year as I reported then.
        RIP Kurt
        Best mates for 14 years
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        • Originally posted by sedgwick__7 View Post
          Our record in recent years hasn't been so bad. Brownhill and Bailey Wright (international player) are both playing at Championship level, as are Davies and Earl in our first team squad. Jamie Proctor, rate him or not, is also playing in the Championship with Rotherham.

          We did have a long barren spell prior to that though, with basically nobody of note coming through between Lonergan and Wright (a decade ?).

          Obviously we're yet to produce a superstar, multi-million player from our academy who goes on to be a top Premier League player, but that's very difficult given the competition to sign young players in our area.

          Clubs like Sheffield United, for example, have a bigger catchment area than us and have much better academies as a result. Hence why they made huge money last year when Kyle Walker and Harry Maguire moved to Man City and Leicester. Even Barnsley did it with Stones. It is noticeable how we've never made decent money further down the line on a prospect from our academy.

          Agree though that eventually, especially with the academy system seemingly becoming more and more favoured towards big clubs, more clubs will probably follow the model Brentford have tried. Ultimately it's basically what we do anyway with some of our first team recruitment. Picking up the scraps from Premier League clubs further down the line than academy level (Pearson, Johnson, Harrop, Robinson) and trying to develop them into good players.
          Brownhill was signed at 16 when he was released from United, can't really include him in that. Pretty sure Bailey Wright was only signed at a similar age too but might be wrong on that one.

          The most talented players to come through our academy are Danny Mayor and Elliott Watt, one sacked us off for Wolves at 16 and the other doesn't like Football.

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          • Originally posted by BenPearsonIsGod View Post
            Brownhill was signed at 16 when he was released from United, can't really include him in that. Pretty sure Bailey Wright was only signed at a similar age too but might be wrong on that one.

            The most talented players to come through our academy are Danny Mayor and Elliott Watt, one sacked us off for Wolves at 16 and the other doesn't like Football.
            Not sure if it was an academy system back then but Kevin Kilbane was transferred for total fees of around 6m during his career and has the 3rd highest number of ROI caps in history, so he didn't turn out too badly. And to think, I never rated him when he was at Deepdale😕

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            • Originally posted by Mickypne View Post
              The Training Ground saga has become like Brexit, iv'e lost interest.
              Ha Ha Ha, me too Micky !!

              . and there is just as much BS being talked as well...............

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              • Both Ben Davies and Josh Earl are potentially 10m+ players IMHO.
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                • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45507385

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                  • Impressive...
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                    • PNE owners company to be billed for overgrowing shrubs on new training ground site

                      The owner of Preston North Ends firm will receive a bill from Lancashire County Council for chopping back overgrown hedges on its new training complex site.

                      The Council has trimmed the shrubs around the former Ingol Golf Course and says it will be getting in contact PNEs owner Trevor Hemmings to recover the cost.

                      Footpaths had been taken over by greenery, making it dangerous for both pedestrians and motorists.

                      The site has not seen any significant work start as of yet and residents have already raised concerns about the state of which the land has been left.

                      Lancashire County Councillor for the Preston West Division, Cllr John Potter, informed the council about his concerns of the overgrowing hedges.

                      He said: The Walker Lane bushes that have already cut back were causing problems for motorists regarding visibility. The Lightfoot Lane one is making pedestrians walk on the road because the foliage is covering the majority.

                      Its made worse the fact that the council tax payer is having to do the work for them. And now the elderly residents at Hollybank home on Boys Lane are struggling to get over the railway bridge because the narrow pavement is getting impassible because of the overgrown hedges.

                      Big claims were made when the controversial housing planning applications were put in for the former Ingol Golf Course but they are failing to do the very basic minimum to maintain their land.

                      Rob Wilson, highways manager for Lancashire County Council, said: The overhanging shrubs close to Ingol Golf Course are all on private land.

                      Weve cut the shrubs back to remove the danger to vehicles and pedestrians. Well be contacting the land owner to recover the costs for this work.

                      Lancashire County Council said it tried to contact PNE to do the work before cutting the hedges itself.

                      Preston North End Football Club denied knowledge of the overgrown hedges.

                      A spokesperson said: We cant give a comment about something we know nothing about.
                      https://www.blogpreston.co.uk/2018/1...g-ground-site/

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                      • So that'll be costing the club money then, as Mr Hemmings has "kindly" passed the land for the training ground over to the club.

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                        • Originally posted by Magic Sponge View Post
                          So that'll be costing the club money then, as Mr Hemmings has "kindly" passed the land for the training ground over to the club.
                          It's nowhere near the training ground site.

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                          • I can think of numerous instances where 'private' hedges are causing a nuisance to pedestrians and traffic, and have done for numerous years, yet the council have never cut them back or forced the 'owners' to do so.

                            Luckily it seems as though they have now appreciated that there is a problem with overgrown hedges and no doubt you and I will see the council acting accordingly in your area, or maybe not, unless you live in Ingol!
                            Bald and proud

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                            • Originally posted by BenPearsonIsGod View Post
                              Brownhill was signed at 16 when he was released from United, can't really include him in that. Pretty sure Bailey Wright was only signed at a similar age too but might be wrong on that one.

                              The most talented players to come through our academy are Danny Mayor and Elliott Watt, one sacked us off for Wolves at 16 and the other doesn't like Football.

                              Brownhill and Wright both came in to start as scholars at 16 (year 12) but only came to us because of how good the academy had become under Ramsdale and Hoyland.....
                              Reece James was the same and United signed him back they day after Westley released him and MU then sold him for 1m 2 years later...
                              Last I heard he was injured at Wigan (not the same Reece James that played against us).

                              of course those contacts disappeared with GW - as those itk would tell you.

                              Ben - are you sure Mayor doesnt like football? Adam Barton, from the same youth team, currently playing in the Scottish Prem, doesnt like football but I've never heard Danny say that......
                              He has won divisional player of the year awards with Bury but never really had the dedication his talent deserved...

                              Josh Heaton is also in the Scottish Prem now....

                              Its taken 5 years to rebuild the reputation of the youth set up for scouts to trust us with talent again, incl a manager who trusts youth......

                              As Hoyland said once "it took GW 5 weeks to destroy what they had built up over 5 years since Simmo brought them to Deepdale"....

                              you will recall that the previous youth regime all walked out when King Billy left !!!

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