Transfer gossip - Summer Window 2021

[SF]

I doubt we'd find another pacey, versatile player to replace Barkhuizen even if he is shocking occasionally.

He's an important player when he's on it.

No brainer to sign him up really which means we'll fuck about.

 

[Tarby_the_joker]

We have lost Davies, Pearson and Fisher. We have gained Olisande, VDB, Lindsay, Whiteman and probably Iversonand a new striker compared to the beginning of last season. I would suggest that we are not weaker, especially as Pearson offered very little last season and certain players like Ledson are better than a year ago.
We have also gained Evans and Cunningham compared with a year ago and therefore I think it is a no brainier that we are stronger than a year ago.

Really……your telling me that pearson, davies and fisher would not be in your starting 11 v hull????? .agree re vdb and iverseon but struggling to see that it is a no brainer that stronger

 

[SuffolknWhat]

Given how he was allegedly treated previously I can't see him/his agent being in any hurry to get talking.
IMO he could get more than he's on here at most Championship clubs, even as a bench warmer.

 

[California_PNE]

Given how he was allegedly treated previously I can't see him/his agent being in any hurry to get talking.
IMO he could get more than he's on here at most Championship clubs, even as a bench warmer.

Correct, and just observed how the club 'manage' their top talent last season also. Over 200 championship appearances, he'd be an idiot not to be looking to maximize his salary.

 

[Pnebraddy87]

Yep, the champ is becoming like the Prem. Absolutely pointless for a club like pne. 3 down , same 3 back up

Just had this argument with a Fulham or 2 fan on twitter, they don’t get the problem with parachute payments.

 

[Double J]

Just had this argument with a Fulham or 2 fan on twitter, they don’t get the problem with parachute payments.

And why would they?

Sheffield United were awarded 180 million pounds for what they served up last season.

It’s rewarding failure. 180 million for finishing last and winning literally four games. Nothing short of an absolute disgrace.

Football in this country needs resetting top to bottom. Unfortunately the Premier League is a marketing machine now.

 

[JSPNE]

He will be an expensive sub for many matches

Would rather pay him good money to be a good option off the bench than having someone like Harrop, who has done very little to be on the money he is on just because he came from United

 

[rem]

Barkhuizen has probably played significantly more minutes and started more matches than anybody else at the club since he signed. His appearance record is remarkable.

As such, citing underuse as a reason not to extend his contract is pretty daft imo.

It wasn’t stated as a reason not to extend his contract. He was one of the 4 players I have stated that we should be negotiating with. Pretty daft to misinterpret IMO.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Barky has scored some brilliant and important goals when you look back at his time here.

Loved it when he went through a stint of scoring against Rovers.

 

[pnenycx]

Sheffield United were awarded 180 million pounds for what they served up last season.

It’s rewarding failure. 180 million for finishing last and winning literally four games. Nothing short of an absolute disgrace.

I'm guessing the rationale of parachute payments is that if you get promoted to the Premiership you won't get decent players to sign if you only offer 1 year contracts. So you need Premiership type money in subsequent seasons should you get relegated in your first season.

 

[Double J]

He will be an expensive sub for many matches

Are you paying his wages fella?

I don’t rate Barkhuizen that highly, but if the gaffa wants him, let him and live and die by them decisions.

Don’t understand why fans are bothered how much ‘x’ is paid or worth.

Managers should be praised for getting the owners to spend money, not criticised. A managers job isn’t to save the owners of a football club money, its to deliver success.

 

[rem]

Really……your telling me that pearson, davies and fisher would not be in your starting 11 v hull????? .agree re vdb and iverseon but struggling to see that it is a no brainer that stronger

The question was about whether we have a stronger or weaker squad than at the beginning of last season
It was not about whether Davies, Pearson and Fisher would be good enough to be in a starting eleven against Hull. Of course they would be if they were still with us!

 

[SuffolknWhat]

Barky has scored some brilliant and important goals when you look back at his time here.

Loved it when he went through a stint of scoring against Rovers.

Especially THAT one
and Wigan
and Bolton
next up.......shitpool!!!

 

[rem]

Are you paying his wages fella?

I don’t rate Barkhuizen that highly, but if the gaffa wants him, let him and live and die by them decisions.

Don’t understand why fans are bothered how much ‘x’ is paid or worth.

Managers should be praised for getting the owners to spend money, not criticised. A managers job isn’t to save the owners of a football club money, its to deliver success.

I am not bothered how much he is paid. Why should I be.To repeat, I have advocated that he should get a new contract. I am merely pointing out that he is frequently not in the starting eleven.

 

[Mickypne]

Just had this argument with a Fulham or 2 fan on twitter, they don’t get the problem with parachute payments.

Course they don't get it. As long as they see the riches, no shits are given about the rest who get 4 million compared to their 100m plus. Parachute payments are an absolute mockery of the game.

 

[Double J]

I'm guessing the rationale of parachute payments is that if you get promoted to the Premiership you won't get decent players to sign if you only offer 1 year contracts. So you need Premiership type money in subsequent seasons should you get relegated in your first season.

If a player gets relegated they probably aren’t justifying their wages.

Id make relegation clauses in contracts for players mandatory. Stop awarding relegation with 180 million, they’d soon reset their wage structure.

To put into comparison.

Manchester City were awarded 100k for winning the League Cup. A trophy, one of the aims of the sport.

Sheffield United were awarded 180 million for being nothing but utter tosh all season, finishing stone last and winning only 4 games of a possible 38.

You can’t even make that make sense.

 

[JK]

If a player gets relegated they probably aren’t justifying their wages.

Id make relegation clauses in contracts for players mandatory. Stop awarding relegation with 180 million, they’d soon reset their wage structure.

To put into comparison.

Manchester City were awarded 100k for winning the League Cup. A trophy, one of the aims of the sport.

Sheffield United were awarded 180 million for being nothing but utter tosh all season, finishing stone last and winning only 4 games of a possible 38.

You can’t even make that make sense.

Parachute payments reward failure.

Simple as that really.

 

[Double J]

I am not bothered how much he is paid. Why should I be.To repeat, I have advocated that he should get a new contract. I am merely pointing out that he is frequently not in the starting eleven.

Then why mention he’d be an expensive sub if you don’t care how much he’s paid?

Anyway, leave it there, I can’t afford to be blocked by any other members of the forum 🤣

 

[Double J]

Parachute payments reward failure.

Simple as that really.

Agree.

Id need to check the facts on this. But pretty certain this is right.

City winning the league get 220 million.
Sheffield United for finishing last get 180 million.

That in itself is a huge problem. Why clubs like West Ham can afford to stick price tags on their players of 100 million, cause they can afford to despite not winning anything for 40 years.

The whole league gets rewarded no matter where they finish. Then they can afford to demand astronomical money for their players cause they don’t need it being rewarded just for being in that division.

Not really North End related, so I wont go on, but thats my ten pence worth.

 

[Pnebraddy87]

If a player gets relegated they probably aren’t justifying their wages.

Id make relegation clauses in contracts for players mandatory. Stop awarding relegation with 180 million, they’d soon reset their wage structure.

To put into comparison.

Manchester City were awarded 100k for winning the League Cup. A trophy, one of the aims of the sport.

Sheffield United were awarded 180 million for being nothing but utter tosh all season, finishing stone last and winning only 4 games of a possible 38.

You can’t even make that make sense.

Exactly, put relegation clauses into contracts and stop spending 100 million to try and compete.

The prem won’t like this though as they want the money running through the league and don’t want the danger of players rejecting clubs because they want to put a relegation clause in their contract. a few of these foreign boys at Watford wouldn’t have stuck around if they dropped to a competitive championship wage following failure to stay in the prem. I see Ayew has now signed for a club in Qatar, I wonder why!