Boris Backs Bully Patel

beagleman

Advisor to the Owner
She’s been found guilty of bullying. There is simply no defending it, read the report and look at the words used - shouting, bullying, detrimental impact on individuals. This isn’t a person being firm with employees or staff.
Will do.
 

beagleman

Advisor to the Owner
Going to read the report before i say owt else.... Was just saying that in my long experience some people are easily confused between when a supervisor is telling them firmly to do their job and crying bullying.
Clearly there are differences and i never shouted or swore at my team. Not me at all.
Dont want anyone to think I'm supporting a bully, just saying that some people are more easily offended than others.
 

wld

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Patron
Going to read the report before i say owt else.... Was just saying that in my long experience some people are easily confused between when a supervisor is telling them firmly to do their job and crying bullying.
Clearly there are differences and i never shouted or swore at my team. Not me at all.
Dont want anyone to think I'm supporting a bully, just saying that some people are more easily offended than others.

That’s true and even the best managers or employers do sometimes err but to be classed as bullying it would have to be consistent. At least that’s what I tell my year 6s!
 

Regardless

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That’s true and even the best managers or employers do sometimes err but to be classed as bullying it would have to be consistent. At least that’s what I tell my year 6s!

So the thing to do is call the lad fat one day, spotty the next, then soft ... just rotate the insults. Got it. 😁
 

NORTHENDRTOPS

French scout
I’m married to a manager who works in the civil service. The amount of crap she has to endure from staff who are just not up to the job is mind blowing. In the private sector they would not be allowed the liberties they take . So no it’s not crap. I listen to the conversations she has and I cannot believe the amount of excuses and nannying that some employees need when they are supposedly qualified to do the job.
I won't say any more, I think you've said enough for me.
 

PNEESSEX

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I’m married to a manager who works in the civil service. The amount of crap she has to endure from staff who are just not up to the job is mind blowing. In the private sector they would not be allowed the liberties they take . So no it’s not crap. I listen to the conversations she has and I cannot believe the amount of excuses and nannying that some employees need when they are supposedly qualified to do the job.
I spent over 30 years in managerial and leadership roles in both the private and public sector. All that was required was a) a robust perfomance management system and b) managers able and willing to implement it. There was absolutely no difference between the two sectors in both managing performance or, ultimately sacking those not performing. I have had to dismiss both managers and staff who weren't up to the job. It wasn't hugely enjoyable but it was sometimes necessary and it was relatively easy to do when the processes and procedures were clear and understood by all. Properly designed and documented processes, followed to the letter, also meant that Employment Tribunals were relatively rare and those that went that route were always won. I simply won't buy into the public sector bad, private sector good narrative because it's simplistic analysis that simply doesnt bear any real scrutiny
 
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raefil

raefil

Shit Fan
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RIP the Nolan Principles. Only 25 years old too :(

The Nolan Principles / The Seven Principles of Public Life​

The Nolan Principles (also known as the Seven Principles of Public Life) were first set out by Lord Nolan in 1995 and apply to anyone who works as a public office holder. This includes people who are elected or appointed to public office. In accordance with the Law, persons in public life shall observe the following principles:

Selflessness​

Holders of public office should take decisions solely in terms of the public interest. They should not do so in order to gain financial or other material benefits for themselves, their family or their friends.

Integrity​

Holders of public office should not place themselves under any financial or other obligation to outside individuals or organisations that might seek to influence them in the performance of their official duties.

Objectivity​

In carrying out public business, including making public appointments, awarding contracts, or recommending individuals for rewards and benefits, holders of public office should make choices on merit.

Accountability​

Holders of public office are accountable for their decisions and actions to the public and must submit themselves to whatever scrutiny is appropriate to their office.

Openness​

Holders of public office should be as open as possible about all the decisions and actions that they take. They should give reasons for their decisions and restrict information only when the wider public interest clearly demands.

Honesty​

Holders of public office have a duty to declare any private interests relating to their public duties and to take steps to resolve any conflicts arising in a way that protects the public interest.

Leadership​

Holders of public office should promote and support these principles by leadership and example.

 

portisheadpete

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RIP the Nolan Principles. Only 25 years old too :(

The Nolan Principles / The Seven Principles of Public Life​

The Nolan Principles (also known as the Seven Principles of Public Life) were first set out by Lord Nolan in 1995 and apply to anyone who works as a public office holder. This includes people who are elected or appointed to public office. In accordance with the Law, persons in public life shall observe the following principles:

Selflessness​

Holders of public office should take decisions solely in terms of the public interest. They should not do so in order to gain financial or other material benefits for themselves, their family or their friends.

Integrity​

Holders of public office should not place themselves under any financial or other obligation to outside individuals or organisations that might seek to influence them in the performance of their official duties.

Objectivity​

In carrying out public business, including making public appointments, awarding contracts, or recommending individuals for rewards and benefits, holders of public office should make choices on merit.

Accountability​

Holders of public office are accountable for their decisions and actions to the public and must submit themselves to whatever scrutiny is appropriate to their office.

Openness​

Holders of public office should be as open as possible about all the decisions and actions that they take. They should give reasons for their decisions and restrict information only when the wider public interest clearly demands.

Honesty​

Holders of public office have a duty to declare any private interests relating to their public duties and to take steps to resolve any conflicts arising in a way that protects the public interest.

Leadership​

Holders of public office should promote and support these principles by leadership and example.


Alternatively to Boris, theyre the 7 deadly sins.
 

Nobber

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Its absolutely nuts.

Just read my notification again, totally read it wrong, not for one minute did I think that shed be taying so just read it that shed resigned.

Does anybody still actually support this shit shower? FFS what thehell are they going to pull come Dec 31st, the prospect is frightening.
Korol still supports them. And he’s dead proud to as well.
 

Nobber

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Patron
I’m married to a manager who works in the civil service. The amount of crap she has to endure from staff who are just not up to the job is mind blowing. In the private sector they would not be allowed the liberties they take . So no it’s not crap. I listen to the conversations she has and I cannot believe the amount of excuses and nannying that some employees need when they are supposedly qualified to do the job.
Maybe she’s a crap manager 😁
 
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