Corona Virus Experience and Advice

sliper

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WARNING : Be very careful with ads on Facebook offering health care standard face masks (N95).. They will take your money and not deliver.
Unbelievable to me that Facebook would allow these ads to appear... and it isn't just one or two. IF TEMPTED CHECK THE COMMENTS.. LOOK FOR AN ADDRESS and GOOGLE IT.

With mounting evidence that facemasks inhibit the spread of the virus.. here is a simple facemask designed by a doctor you can easily make using household materials that provides a degree of protection...better than nothing. Wear them once and safely dispose. My wife and I have taken to wearing these when visiting the supermarket.


Even Wowcher is getting in on the act.. offering "next day delivery of non surgical facemasks". I ordered some last week.. and nothing has been delivered.
 
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Couple of things. 1. I mentioned on the main CV thread about salt water gargles and one of our resident non doctors shot it down in flames despite me referencing an actual medical study. Well heres a proper doctor explaining why it works. (Again important to point out it is not a cure, just a way of reducing your risk). If you can't be arsed to watch it, the science is that we have stuff in our throats that when combined with salt produces the same active ingredient in bleach and therefore will kill lots of viruses and we know that covid resides, multiplies and sheds in the throat in the early stages of the disease.

2. Masks. A mathemetician/risk specialist on twitter did some figures about mask use and its efficacy. Won't bore you with the details but the long and short of it is that us non NHS people don't need FFP3 masks (which give 99% protection if used properly). Even with a mask that only gave 30% protection, due to something called convexity, it will reduce your chances of getting the virus in your mouth/nose by far more than 30% up to maybe even 95% and if everyone wore them, the figure is even higher. Basically anything you can use to cover both your mouth and nose will be very good for you to use. Again, nothing goves 100% protection but for people in at risk groups, marginal gains like these 2 things are great to reduce your risk.
 

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Couple of things. 1. I mentioned on the main CV thread about salt water gargles and one of our resident non doctors shot it down in flames despite me referencing an actual medical study. Well heres a proper doctor explaining why it works. (Again important to point out it is not a cure, just a way of reducing your risk). If you can't be arsed to watch it, the science is that we have stuff in our throats that when combined with salt produces the same active ingredient in bleach and therefore will kill lots of viruses and we know that covid resides, multiplies and sheds in the throat in the early stages of the disease.

2. Masks. A mathemetician/risk specialist on twitter did some figures about mask use and its efficacy. Won't bore you with the details but the long and short of it is that us non NHS people don't need FFP3 masks (which give 99% protection if used properly). Even with a mask that only gave 30% protection, due to something called convexity, it will reduce your chances of getting the virus in your mouth/nose by far more than 30% up to maybe even 95% and if everyone wore them, the figure is even higher. Basically anything you can use to cover both your mouth and nose will be very good for you to use. Again, nothing goves 100% protection but for people in at risk groups, marginal gains like these 2 things are great to reduce your risk.
I think the masks basically protect other people from your own potential aerosol spreading of potential disease.
 

sliper

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As getting masks is difficult. Here is an updated version of the paper towel mask.. now a multi layer paper towel face mask. It is worth noting that the countries were face masks are worn widely generally have the lowest infection rates.

 
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PNEESSEX

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Couple of things. 1. I mentioned on the main CV thread about salt water gargles and one of our resident non doctors shot it down in flames despite me referencing an actual medical study. Well heres a proper doctor explaining why it works. (Again important to point out it is not a cure, just a way of reducing your risk). If you can't be arsed to watch it, the science is that we have stuff in our throats that when combined with salt produces the same active ingredient in bleach and therefore will kill lots of viruses and we know that covid resides, multiplies and sheds in the throat in the early stages of the disease.

2. Masks. A mathemetician/risk specialist on twitter did some figures about mask use and its efficacy. Won't bore you with the details but the long and short of it is that us non NHS people don't need FFP3 masks (which give 99% protection if used properly). Even with a mask that only gave 30% protection, due to something called convexity, it will reduce your chances of getting the virus in your mouth/nose by far more than 30% up to maybe even 95% and if everyone wore them, the figure is even higher. Basically anything you can use to cover both your mouth and nose will be very good for you to use. Again, nothing goves 100% protection but for people in at risk groups, marginal gains like these 2 things are great to reduce your risk.
Dr Berg isn't a proper Doctor btw. He's a chiropractor and weight loss expert.
 

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Anyone had a look into the claim by some that smokers are less likely to catch it?

Am tempted into think there may be summat in this. Mainly because a few years ago I read an article about how ex-smokers tended to get respiratory illnesses in the few months after giving up, which was put down at the time to speculating that the smoke had been killing a proportion of viruses getting into the tract, and that the newly healing lungs were now more vulnerable.
 

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Anyone had a look into the claim by some that smokers are less likely to catch it?

Am tempted into think there may be summat in this. Mainly because a few years ago I read an article about how ex-smokers tended to get respiratory illnesses in the few months after giving up, which was put down at the time to speculating that the smoke had been killing a proportion of viruses getting into the tract, and that the newly healing lungs were now more vulnerable.
dont know about that, but I think the info says that smokers, are more likely to die from it if they do get it.
 

Karcist

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dont know about that, but I think the info says that smokers, are more likely to die from it if they do get it.
Oh, absolutely, without any doubt.

What I`m wondering about is if perhaps this might not be the best time for someone to quit.

( Incidentally, mods, hadn`t seen the other thread, which would have been a more appropriate place, when I posted on this one. Feel free to delete or move)
 
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Anyone had a look into the claim by some that smokers are less likely to catch it?

Am tempted into think there may be summat in this. Mainly because a few years ago I read an article about how ex-smokers tended to get respiratory illnesses in the few months after giving up, which was put down at the time to speculating that the smoke had been killing a proportion of viruses getting into the tract, and that the newly healing lungs were now more vulnerable.
I would suspect that rather than the smoke killing any viruses, it would be the inhaled heat that may possibly have a similar effect to the taking of hot drinks that I was advised to take to reduce the effects of the virus.
 

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There seems to be a growing school of thought as to why BAME people are more susceptible to suffering the worse symptoms of Covid 19 and that is based around the lack of Vitamin D in darker skin.
 

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There seems to be a growing school of thought as to why BAME people are more susceptible to suffering the worse symptoms of Covid 19 and that is based around the lack of Vitamin D in darker skin.
Have you got a link because everything I have read seems to suggest it is more due to socio-economic class, the fact that they are more likely to live in larger groups and a lack of illness education.
 

sliper

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We already suspect that Covid 19 is cumulative

I take from this article other than buying an oximetry is that getting plenty of fresh air and deep breathing excercises are worth doing regularly. Plenty of info on deep breathing excercises.
 
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We already suspect that Covid 19 is cumulative

I take from this article other than buying an oximetry is that getting plenty of fresh air and deep breathing excercises are worth doing regularly. Plenty of info on deep breathing excercises.
As an asthmatic, I have a peak flow meter. As a typical asthmatic, I don’t use it ordinarily. I’ve started using it recently and I suspect any drops would be a potential sign of something not being quite right with regard to the virus,
 
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