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Coronavirus science and statistics(no politics)

Sepp Blatter said:
Because, as long as countries are internally consistent about how they collect data, then the shape of the curves will remain the same - it's the magnitude that will be different.
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That makes sense 👍🏻
 
California_PNE said:
The shape of the curve describes the general behaviour or development of the epidemic within that sample being measured, i.e. the curves being discussed all have the same shape

Btw, the paper (imperial college London) that got the UK in this mess was not peer reviewed
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It was the government that got the country in this mess, making excuses for them doesn’t wash.
 
Nobber said:
It was the government that got the country in this mess, making excuses for them doesn’t wash.
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Eveyone else is sticking to the spirit of the thread, keep your grunting on the other thread.

My point was in reference to previous discussion, thanks.
 
beagleman said:
Exactly...... Take two Asdas... One in Manchester.. One in Preston

Asda head office ring up and ask how many bananas did you throw away yesterday?

Manchester say 25, Preston say 90.

Manchester counted bunches.. Preston counted individual bananas.... Therefore when compared like for like Preston threw out 15 bunches of 6....

Manipulation of data will always occur to make someone look better/more efficient.
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That’s bananas
 
California_PNE said:
Eveyone else is sticking to the spirit of the thread, keep your grunting on the other thread.

My point was in reference to previous discussion, thanks.
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Thanks,

but the mess was created by the government. I thought this was the factual thread so I thought I’d post a fact 👍🏻
 
An interesting exploration of the data and data interpretation in this BBC article

www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus: Is the UK in a better position than we think?

The negative headlines come thick-and-fast, but there are also signs the UK is on top of the virus.
www.bbc.co.uk

When the ONS's surveillance programme tests 30,000 over 2 weeks and finds 24 positive cases, then uses this small number of positives to draw conclusions about prevalence and spread, the statistical confidence levels must be pretty wide
 
Some mixed news from Sweden - that, so far, it has seen no rise in cases - although this article is very sensationalist and terms like plummet and spike are way over the top, IMO:


The economy is also holding up compared to most of Europe, although not much better than its neighbours:

www.bbc.com

Coronavirus: Sweden's economy hit less hard by pandemic

After avoiding a Covid-19 lockdown, the country sees its economy shrink less than in other EU nations.
www.bbc.com

medicalxpress.com

Sweden eschewed lockdowns. It's too early to be certain it was wrong

Sweden has become something of a cautionary tale for what happens when you attempt to tackle coronavirus without lockdowns.
medicalxpress.com medicalxpress.com

And an interesting piece about how people have misreported Sweden's approach to lockdown. It was never simply letting the virus proceed unchecked:

globalizationandhealth.biomedcentral.com

Misinformation and de-contextualization: international media reporting on Sweden and COVID-19

In the first month of the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, Sweden took the same strategy as most other countries, working to “flatten the curve,” by slowing transmission so that the healthcare system could cope with the disease. However, unlike most other countries, much of Sweden’s implementation...
globalizationandhealth.biomedcentral.com globalizationandhealth.biomedcentral.com

Seeing a spike in many countries, including Germany, Spain, and Japan, but mortality hasn't risen, yet. Really hope it stays that way!
 
Sepp Blatter said:
Some mixed news from Sweden - that, so far, it has seen no rise in cases - although this article is very sensationalist and terms like plummet and spike are way over the top, IMO:


The economy is also holding up compared to most of Europe, although not much better than its neighbours:

www.bbc.com

Coronavirus: Sweden's economy hit less hard by pandemic

After avoiding a Covid-19 lockdown, the country sees its economy shrink less than in other EU nations.
www.bbc.com

medicalxpress.com

Sweden eschewed lockdowns. It's too early to be certain it was wrong

Sweden has become something of a cautionary tale for what happens when you attempt to tackle coronavirus without lockdowns.
medicalxpress.com medicalxpress.com

And an interesting piece about how people have misreported Sweden's approach to lockdown. It was never simply letting the virus proceed unchecked:

globalizationandhealth.biomedcentral.com

Misinformation and de-contextualization: international media reporting on Sweden and COVID-19

In the first month of the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, Sweden took the same strategy as most other countries, working to “flatten the curve,” by slowing transmission so that the healthcare system could cope with the disease. However, unlike most other countries, much of Sweden’s implementation...
globalizationandhealth.biomedcentral.com globalizationandhealth.biomedcentral.com

Seeing a spike in many countries, including Germany, Spain, and Japan, but mortality hasn't risen, yet. Really hope it stays that way!
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Some signs of MSM starting to look at some of the alternative opinion at last too sepp



Read about Sweden economy, hopefully they can start to recover also
 
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