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Extinction Rebellion

Bobbage said:
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Kudos to Greta for bringing an issue to the fore front in a genuine way that she really believes in and takes the necessary steps to travel to events overland minimising the global foot print, she and her peers have some sincere fears and opinions that a lot of us agree with to some degree.
As an older person i only question the time scale of going from A to Zee
However:
As well as criticising the way things have been (without the knowledge of now) She could more forcibly get the message across to her own age groups who, if you've ever been round a park or a beach after a youth gathering will find any number of discarded bottles, tinnies, plastic, general crap, not even put in the bins that are usually not too far away. That (most) older people would never do.
One (true) little amusing anecdote that we have from our little customer facing Business on the Cartmel Peninsula was a young lady (mid 20's or so) a little while ago, telling us that she was off to London (not sure how she got there) to take part in the stop oil protests.
Fairly laudable i suppose, if it was peaceful and legal.
However:
Her Grandma (who was with her at the time) came in later to tell us that she jetted off to Iberia (or somewhere similar) the week later - talk about not REALLY taking on board your so called convictions!!
Greta at least has genuine convictions - many of the just stop oil types are confused to the point of being hypocritical.
 
jld74 said:
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The title of the Annual Conference she was protesting outside was called (until it was carefully rebranded in 2020) ā€œThe Oil and Money Conferenceā€. That sounds like it might be full of people who are looking after the interests of you and me šŸ™„

This government has been introducing laws that restrict all our rights to protest. It appears Greta went ahead with her peaceful demonstration plans and that has got her arrested.

If you still think thatā€™s ā€œgoodā€ .. well good luck when you want to protest against something that YOU passionately believe to be a huge injustice - that perhaps the next Labour government tries to bring in.
 
deepdaledreamer said:
Kudos to Greta for bringing an issue to the fore front in a genuine way that she really believes in and takes the necessary steps to travel to events overland minimising the global foot print, she and her peers have some sincere fears and opinions that a lot of us agree with to some degree.
As an older person i only question the time scale of going from A to Zee
However:
As well as criticising the way things have been (without the knowledge of now) She could more forcibly get the message across to her own age groups who, if you've ever been round a park or a beach after a youth gathering will find any number of discarded bottles, tinnies, plastic, general crap, not even put in the bins that are usually not too far away. That (most) older people would never do.
One (true) little amusing anecdote that we have from our little customer facing Business on the Cartmel Peninsula was a young lady (mid 20's or so) a little while ago, telling us that she was off to London (not sure how she got there) to take part in the stop oil protests.
Fairly laudable i suppose, if it was peaceful and legal.
However:
Her Grandma (who was with her at the time) came in later to tell us that she jetted off to Iberia (or somewhere similar) the week later - talk about not REALLY taking on board your so called convictions!!
Greta at least has genuine convictions - many of the just stop oil types are confused to the point of being hypocritical.
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I'm amazed at the amount of dumped, abandoned tent, sleeping bags, associated camping CRAP that is at Glastonbury every year. And (from the aerial photos I see ) - it seems to be worse every year. Why don't the Eavis family lot make the deal that there's an individual responsible for each&every tent & all associated stuff , and charge more for a refundable deposit. Or something. That festival USED to be, in the dim mists of time, a CND/Greenpeace thing. Now it's just-another ( & of course the biggest ) - festival.
One Hundred ( refundable) pounds seems a nice round figure.
 
Really interesting take on carbon footprint, the poor compared to the rich.

"We are not equally to blame for rising temperatures, and recognising that is an important step in identifying possible solutions"

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The great carbon divide

We are not equally to blame for rising temperatures, and recognising that is an important step in identifying possible solutions
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Restaurants, pets and holidays: how UKĆ¢s well-off have outsize carbon footprints

Data shows baby boomers have highest emissions and London has lower footprint than rest of UK
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nigelscamelcoat said:
Watching the great climate guide on C4 now. Quite good. They are having a proper swipe at the government. Better be careful, they'll be getting sold off!
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Peter Lilley just quoted the IPCC to Packham stating as fact that climate events were not increasing or impacted by human activity. I just looked them up and the link confirms the exact opposite. These lying chunts just state the opposite to truth relying on it bring enough to create sufficient public doubt to allow the oil to continue to flow.

Extreme Weather and Climate Change

Vital Signs of the Planet: Global Climate Change and Global Warming. As the climate changes, the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events are increasing.
climate.nasa.gov climate.nasa.gov
 
nigelscamelcoat said:
Watching the great climate guide on C4 now. Quite good. They are having a proper swipe at the government. Better be careful, they'll be getting sold off!
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2nd part (The Great Climate Fight) on C4 tonight at 9pm.

Dont think presenters Mary Portas and Kevin McCloud could be described/dismissed as ā€œwokeā€.

Good to see them highlighting the neanderthal approach of the Tory Government over the last 13 years and how Cameronā€™s ditching of the ā€œgreen crapā€ is holding us back so much and hitting the pockets of everyone in the UK.
 
noelpne said:
I'm amazed at the amount of dumped, abandoned tent, sleeping bags, associated camping CRAP that is at Glastonbury every year. And (from the aerial photos I see ) - it seems to be worse every year. Why don't the Eavis family lot make the deal that there's an individual responsible for each&every tent & all associated stuff , and charge more for a refundable deposit. Or something. That festival USED to be, in the dim mists of time, a CND/Greenpeace thing. Now it's just-another ( & of course the biggest ) - festival.
One Hundred ( refundable) pounds seems a nice round figure.
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www.somersetlive.co.uk

This is what happens to all the tents left behind at Glastonbury

Every year thousands of tents are abandoned after the Glastonbury Festival. Here is what happens next
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Glastonbury Festival - Take It, Donā€™t Leave It

Glastonbury Festival of Contemporary Performing Arts
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noelpne said:
I'm amazed at the amount of dumped, abandoned tent, sleeping bags, associated camping CRAP that is at Glastonbury every year. And (from the aerial photos I see ) - it seems to be worse every year. Why don't the Eavis family lot make the deal that there's an individual responsible for each&every tent & all associated stuff , and charge more for a refundable deposit. Or something. That festival USED to be, in the dim mists of time, a CND/Greenpeace thing. Now it's just-another ( & of course the biggest ) - festival.
One Hundred ( refundable) pounds seems a nice round figure.
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I bet if a pre-registration code for the following year was given for you leaving with your/a tent or at least it reaching a particular recycling/reuse point at the exits. As soon as people left with a dismantled tent there would be flytipping all over the local area I imagine

It's odd that smaller festivals can manage it by relying on collective goodwill
 
jakehake said:
I bet if a pre-registration code for the following year was given for you leaving with your/a tent or at least it reaching a particular recycling/reuse point at the exits. As soon as people left with a dismantled tent there would be flytipping all over the local area I imagine

It's odd that smaller festivals can manage it by relying on collective goodwill
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Good idea that about a voucher or something for the next year's pre-sale.

It happens to some extent at all festivals though. Glastonbury is just absolutely huge. I'm not saying that excuses it.

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Photos revealing unseen dark side of music festivals spark outrage online: ā€˜What all the cute Instagram pictures donā€™t showā€™

Camping is often part of the experience when participating in these festivals.
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