Mansfield Town v PNE - 10/08/21 - KO:19:45 - League Cup 1st Round

65on

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We can’t even field a back 4 at the moment as our central defenders ‘aren’t upto it’ and yet people are still making Maguire the scapegoat. Let’s sort out or defence first before we look at replacing 3rd, 4th choice strikers.
There will always be a scapegoat my friend. It goes with territory. If someone scores 25 a season and we miss out on goal difference why didn't you score 26 etc.Last year Stockley. This season???
 

65on

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We all hope so, but what do you know about him, other than that he's young and scored a pre season goal? Do you know how he plays, his strengths or weaknesses, how his partnership in the youth team worked?
What does anybody know about anybody until you try them?Dolan a prime example.
 

richiepne25

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I love how people just assume youth players are just going to jump into the first team and smash it. Yes the boy looks to have something about him and he has a decent physique for a young lad but like you say, we know very little more about him at the mo. I hope he comes on at a rapid rate of knots I really do but realistically he’s just another youth player coming through. And we haven’t particularly had a good stream of youth players in recent years.
 

65on

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There is nothing 'grudging' about anything I say about Maguire or anyone else - I just say it as I see it. As for Maguire I have always stressed that he cannot be faulted for effort and that when he drops deep to collect the ball he can still do clever things. That is a useful supplementary skill for a striker to possess but the problem is that where there should be a striker - a player who can directly threaten the opponent's goal when facing it and closing in on it there just isn't any longer a player of any consequence at least at this level. It is sad to say but are you really saying there is.

As for rest of what you write it is just formulaic tosh. I don't have any 'hatred' for any player nor for anyone here who disagrees with what I say.
I agree but he has served his purpose. Next please!
 

65on

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I love how people just assume youth players are just going to jump into the first team and smash it. Yes the boy looks to have something about him and he has a decent physique for a young lad but like you say, we know very little more about him at the mo. I hope he comes on at a rapid rate of knots I really do but realistically he’s just another youth player coming through. And we haven’t particularly had a good stream of youth players in recent years.
Again, lack of opportunity even in friendlies and bounce games
 

HunterLionheart

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What does anybody know about anybody until you try them?Dolan a prime example.

I mean the people who watch the youth team can tell you what attribute he has, what he's good at, where he'd best fit in etc.

You can throw a good player in anywhere on the pitch, but if they don't know what they're doing there, they'll look out of their depth.
 

sports rehab

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I mean the people who watch the youth team can tell you what attribute he has, what he's good at, where he'd best fit in etc.

You can throw a good player in anywhere on the pitch, but if they don't know what they're doing there, they'll look out of their depth.
obviously didnt see him for 15 months but did before lockdown and went to Longridge.....

He is generally a good finisher but for me doesn't use his obvious physical size to much use yet..... the Longridge CB's had him easily handled but once he got a chance he scored.....and that was similar to what I saw in his 1st year scholar days.....where Jacob looked a better prospect tbf.

I'd say he hasnt yet grown into his body to know how to use it - cant say I've seen him win many (if any) headers....

lets not rush him but maybe cameo sub appearances and central league games.
 

HunterLionheart

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obviously didnt see him for 15 months but did before lockdown and went to Longridge.....

He is generally a good finisher but for me doesn't use his obvious physical size to much use yet..... the Longridge CB's had him easily handled but once he got a chance he scored.....and that was similar to what I saw in his 1st year scholar days.....where Jacob looked a better prospect tbf.

I'd say he hasnt yet grown into his body to know how to use it - cant say I've seen him win many (if any) headers....

lets not rush him but maybe cameo sub appearances and central league games.

Aye, you've got a much better idea than most- think it's pretty rare that any striker at that age is fully using their size to their potential!
 

Danielson

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Nice to see a Garstang lad and PNE fan score against the plastics. Well done Adam.
He’s actually a Liverpool fan and has been since before he signed for them as a young kid.
He went to the final against Swindon with his Garstang mates and had a North End shirt on for the day, the photo of him in it has been brought up a few times.
He’s a lovely lad, good friends with my daughters and told me recently that he’d love to play for us. Still has hopes of Prem football and I really respect his ambition.
 

VERNON ALLAT

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He’s actually a Liverpool fan and has been since before he signed for them as a young kid.
He went to the final against Swindon with his Garstang mates and had a North End shirt on for the day, the photo of him in it has been brought up a few times.
He’s a lovely lad, good friends with my daughters and told me recently that he’d love to play for us. Still has hopes of Prem football and I really respect his ambition.
Follows North End with his mates at away games when not playing and was playing above his age group for Liverpool and was the star of the youth team. Liverpool paid a fee to Rovers to sign him at 14 and Rodgers had high hopes for him. Few injuries and Klopp let him go. Now loaned to Morecambe from Burnley under 23s. The best junior footballer in Preston I have had the pleasure of watching. Would be a fantastic signing for PNE set piece specialist and skilful box to box midfielder.
 
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