Need Covid passport

[wld]

So, taking the discussion back to Deepdale, I'd be safer whilst watching the game but not going inside at HT for a break.
Do I keep this bloody mask on just for initially getting to my seat / leaving the Ground ?

You’re supposed to wear it on the concourse, although the word obliged is more correct than supposed. Going to your seat is personal preference.

 

[LostinSpace]

But it’s an UNKNOWN at the moment isn’t it and so the scientists and public health officials are advising for now that we should be careful until we’re confident it won’t pose a major threat. Reports from South Africa stated that the new variant was a real risk to very young children. What if that turned out to be correct?

Apparently the first two jabs give only a small amount of protection from the omicron variant and so they’re encouraging people to protect themselves by getting a booster.

I cant see the problem with all of us just accepting that this is a once in a lifetime pandemic and that we should all take simple, sensible mitigating measures to tackle it for everyone’s sake. Teamwork.

Better to wear the masks in shops etc rather than have this new variant spread out of control resulting in an overwhelmed NHS and the threat of another lockdown and the economy hit for six again.

No it isn’t an unknown, the evidence so far suggests that it’s mild compared to other variants. And is definitely know that vaccines are 75% effective. Compare that the flu vaccine that’s 60% effective.

 

[26-0]

No it isn’t an unknown, the evidence so far suggests that it’s mild compared to other variants. And is definitely know that vaccines are 75% effective. Compare that the flu vaccine that’s 60% effective.

Ha ha.

A new variant appears and you know immediately that it poses virtually no threat.

Hope you’ve shared your knowledge with the government scientists and health officials.

They’re expecting far more fully vaccinated people to become hospitalised by it.

As I said we’re in unknown territory at the moment.

 

[LostinSpace]

Ha ha.

A new variant appears and you know immediately that it poses virtually no threat.

Hope you’ve shared your knowledge with the government scientists and health officials.

They’re expecting far more fully vaccinated people to become hospitalised by it.

As I said we’re in unknown territory at the moment.

I didn’t say no threat, please don’t put words in my mouth. I said that being fully vaccinated Is 75% effective and that illness is mild relative to other strains.
It’s not me saying that, it’s South African medics who have as much experience with omicron as anybody. Couple that with the fact that Omicron has now spread to over 40 countries and as yet there hasn’t been single reported case of serious illness, hospitalisation or death.

 

[paolo poggi]

Have I missed an update from North End on guidance for tomorrow?

No medical discrimination will be in place for Barnsley at home.

 

[PNEurotic]

Some absolute melts on this thread. Stick your passport up your arse Boris, see you on Parliament Square on the 18th (doubt it)

 

[daddyman16]

That’s something that really needs emphasising. A bit of cloth over your mouth has a negligible impact, a proper mask (of preferably FFP2 standard or above) makes a real difference.



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I saw someone wearing a level 5 mask at the very start of the pandemic, I just can't see people wearing anything other than level 1&2 now.

 

[wld]

I saw someone wearing a level 5 mask at the very start of the pandemic, I just can't see people wearing anything other than level 1&2 now.

I think you’re generally right sadly - except I know someone who wears level 3 😄

 

[daddyman16]

I think you’re generally right sadly - except I know someone who wears level 3 😄

I tell a lie, I have seen plenty with the masks with the metal strip on the outside but always thought they were hardware masks 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[djwoody]

I didn’t say no threat, please don’t put words in my mouth. I said that being fully vaccinated Is 75% effective and that illness is mild relative to other strains.
It’s not me saying that, it’s South African medics who have as much experience with omicron as anybody. Couple that with the fact that Omicron has now spread to over 40 countries and as yet there hasn’t been single reported case of serious illness, hospitalisation or death.

There are hospitalizations, and I believe one death from something I read yesterday.

 

[LostinSpace]

There are hospitalizations, and I believe one death from something I read yesterday.

Do you have a link?

 

[Lord Edgington]

I didn’t say no threat, please don’t put words in my mouth. I said that being fully vaccinated Is 75% effective and that illness is mild relative to other strains.
It’s not me saying that, it’s South African medics who have as much experience with omicron as anybody. Couple that with the fact that Omicron has now spread to over 40 countries and as yet there hasn’t been single reported case of serious illness, hospitalisation or death.

Would the variant be noted if covid is identified as the cause of death or simply the covid virus generic ?

 

[Thracia]

Would the variant be noted if covid is identified as the cause of death or simply the covid virus generic ?

They can identify the variant (using SGTF) whether the patient is alive or dead. Given the current interest in omicron, I'm sure they'll be paying close attention to which variant it is right now.

In a few weeks they won't have to, because omicron is forecast to become dominant by then.

 

[Lord Edgington]

They can identify the variant (using SGTF) whether the patient is alive or dead. Given the current interest in omicron, I'm sure they'll be paying close attention to which variant it is right now.

In a few weeks they won't have to, because omicron is forecast to become dominant by then.

Thanks
Good knowledge

 

[zorro]

there are literally thousands of studies that prove they do help, cant link you to them all but heres a few

An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19

The science around the use of masks by the public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. In this narrative review, we develop an analytical framework to examine mask usage, synthesizing the relevant literature to inform multiple areas: population impact, transmission...

www.pnas.org

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.

www.ucsf.edu

Oxford COVID-19 study: face masks and coverings work – act now | University of Oxford

Cloth face coverings, even homemade masks made of the correct material, are effective in reducing the spread of COVID-19 - for the wearer and those around them - according to a new study from Oxford’s Leverhulme Centre for Demographic Science.

www.ox.ac.uk

Effectiveness of Face Masks in Preventing Airborne Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 | mSphere

Airborne simulation experiments showed that cotton masks, surgical masks, and N95 masks provide some protection from the transmission of infective SARS-CoV-2 droplets/aerosols; however, medical masks (surgical masks and even N95 masks) could not ...

journals.asm.org

not suggesting they reduce transmission to zero but even someone with limited knowledge must admit if someone sneezed its going to go less distance if they are wearing a mask, basic physics shows us that.

Thing is physics also tells us that the fine aerosols that are the main cause of covid spreading will get through cloth masks and blue masks like a mosquito through a football net. And that snot ball on the inside of your mask? Well, it evaporates into fine aerosols and they get through, potentially in a concentrated cloud. Devil in the detail.

Ps if it's so obvious that community masking works, why did Govenrment scientists state that masks in the community are likely to have little or no impact on spread but will have an important psychological impact. It's in SPI-B minutes. Just saying.

 

[djwoody]

Do you have a link?

I'll have a search again later.

 

[Schemer]

Disappointing level of compliance with mask wearing on the AKTE concourse yesterday (probably about 10% at best), despite the club saying this on 10 Dec:

".......supporters will now need to wear a face covering while on the concourse at Deepdale, unless eating or drinking. These must be worn by all supporters over the age of 11, unless medically exempt, while on the concourse until entering the stadium bowl."

I appreciate this was very short notice and many fans probably simply forgot to bring a mask but I would hope there is a greater uptake for the next home game, when, of course, the pass will also be needed.

 

[wld]

Disappointing level of compliance with mask wearing on the AKTE concourse yesterday (probably about 10% at best), despite the club saying this on 10 Dec:

".......supporters will now need to wear a face covering while on the concourse at Deepdale, unless eating or drinking. These must be worn by all supporters over the age of 11, unless medically exempt, while on the concourse until entering the stadium bowl."

I appreciate this was very short notice and many fans probably simply forgot to bring a mask but I would hope there is a greater uptake for the next home game, when, of course, the pass will also be needed.

The stewards were checking on the way in on the Invincibles. At the end of the game, at least a couple of stewards didn’t seem overly bothered going by the fact they weren’t wearing one themselves.

 

[northender2]

Disappointing level of compliance with mask wearing on the AKTE concourse yesterday (probably about 10% at best), despite the club saying this on 10 Dec:

".......supporters will now need to wear a face covering while on the concourse at Deepdale, unless eating or drinking. These must be worn by all supporters over the age of 11, unless medically exempt, while on the concourse until entering the stadium bowl."

I appreciate this was very short notice and many fans probably simply forgot to bring a mask but I would hope there is a greater uptake for the next home game, when, of course, the pass will also be needed.

they were asking people if they had asks at the turnstiles on the town end, and id say it was much higher than 10%, id guess about half to 2 thirds of people has masks on when I walked through the concourse, obviously some were eating/drinking so weren't wearing their masks but i quickly walked through to my seat and didn't hang around inside for too long
I think after the game there were less wearing them, maybe people forgot to put them back on after the game finished but i also saw a couple of stewards on the stairs not wearing masks

 

[baysidepne]

The stewards were checking on the way in on the Invincibles. At the end of the game, at least a couple of stewards didn’t seem overly bothered going by the fact they weren’t wearing one themselves.

And fair play to the club for providing Masks at the turnstile for those who didn't have them.