Next labour leader

kingpne

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And there he was talking absolute crap.
You’re jealous of their wealth as well then I see.

I didnt realise that Starmer was odds on favourite to become the next labour leader ...

I think that at the start of the process rebecca bailey long was clear favourite but it now looks like it will be Starmer ( if the odds are correct )
And no doubt it will be the media’s fault if Jeremy Long-Bailey wasn’t to win.
 

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There was absolutely no point in Lisa Nandy outright lying about this point.
Very poor.
I`m getting my info on a future Party Leader ( and hopefully next PM) from those like you on this board that follow it more closely.

Karmer seems to be some kind of Blair-lite, Long-Bailey looks and sounds less electable than JC, and now Nandy ( who can present herself well and I thought might be a good non-Karmer option) appears to have an increasing number of flaws.

Is there really no-one else in the LP with the talent? Or the support?

Worrying, unless you`re a Tory.
 

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a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

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In reality it is. It has been proven to be sinister and disastrous at every attempt...

"not real socialism" etc etc etc etc

JC held up Venezuela and Bolivia as Socialist countries and economical models that we can aspire to be like.

Yes there have been factors but if it can't work in a oil rich country like Venezuela run by JC's socialist hero why would it work anywhere else?
 

raefil

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In reality it is. It has been proven to be sinister and disastrous at every attempt...

"not real socialism" etc etc etc etc

JC held up Venezuela and Bolivia as Socialist countries and economical models that we can aspire to be like.

Yes there have been factors but if it can't work in a oil rich country like Venezuela run by JC's socialist hero why would it work anywhere else?
JCs socialist hero?

Hows things anyway fellah?

good to have you back bud.
 

Liberation

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I didnt realise that Starmer was odds on favourite to become the next labour leader ...

I think that at the start of the process rebecca bailey long was clear favourite but it now looks like it will be Starmer ( if the odds are correct )

If Starmer wins then Blairs back again along with his apprentice tories...Great choice for the electorate in future GE's eh?
 

Liberation

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In reality it is. It has been proven to be sinister and disastrous at every attempt...

"not real socialism" etc etc etc etc

JC held up Venezuela and Bolivia as Socialist countries and economical models that we can aspire to be like.

Yes there have been factors but if it can't work in a oil rich country like Venezuela run by JC's socialist hero why would it work anywhere else?

Much better to follow the " every man for himself " mantra eh?......... It's bloody ace until you can't help yourself. Obviously you will never be in that position and bugger anyone that is I assume?
 
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Much better to follow the " every man for himself " mantra eh?......... It's bloody ace until you can't help yourself. Obviously you will never be in that position and bugger anyone that is I assume?
But LIB

I have said to you before
You cannot and will not get the change you want unless you have a leader who is electable with the policies to convince others who do NOT vote labour to your support you’re Party
AND that is what happened in the Last GE

Otherwise to coin an old phrase 'your pissing in the wind'
And I am NOT for standing next to you while you do it
 

Liberation

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But LIB

I have said to you before
You cannot and will not get the change you want unless you have a leader who is electable with the policies to convince others who do NOT vote labour to your support you’re Party
AND that is what happened in the Last GE

Otherwise to coin an old phrase 'your pissing in the wind'
And I am NOT for standing next to you while you do it

And I've said to you before John, if you get an electable Blairite then nothing will ever change. Your way just promotes the staus quo which isn't for me fella.
 

Snicky

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Much better to follow the " every man for himself " mantra eh?......... It's bloody ace until you can't help yourself. Obviously you will never be in that position and bugger anyone that is I assume?
Not at all, I've been as low and as desperate as it gets, I've been days away from losing my house having lost a job to a serious injury.

I believe in dragging people up, not leveling people down.
 
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And I've said to you before John, if you get an electable Blairite then nothing will ever change. Your way just promotes the staus quo which isn't for me fella.
Yes I respect your view LIB even if I don't agree with it
But in that case YOU get Boris or someone similar
 

California_PNE

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I`m getting my info on a future Party Leader ( and hopefully next PM) from those like you on this board that follow it more closely.

Karmer seems to be some kind of Blair-lite, Long-Bailey looks and sounds less electable than JC, and now Nandy ( who can present herself well and I thought might be a good non-Karmer option) appears to have an increasing number of flaws.

Is there really no-one else in the LP with the talent? Or the support?

Worrying, unless you`re a Tory.
Steven Kinnock
 
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