Post Brexit Britain

jakehake

Preachs PA
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I see the excuses are already starting that in completely unexpected news the massively larger trading partner appears to actually hold some of the cards and is exerting it's authority as being in the better position. It's just like, so unexpected, I can't believe people didn't consider this would happen for a minute. I mean they need us more than we need them I thought
 

truenorthender

Advisor to the Owner
I see the excuses are already starting that in completely unexpected news the massively larger trading partner appears to actually hold some of the cards and is exerting it's authority as being in the better position. It's just like, so unexpected, I can't believe people didn't consider this would happen for a minute. I mean they need us more than we need them I thought
Stop being so defeatist jakeywakey. It'll come good, you'll see
 

truenorthender

Advisor to the Owner
Yeah we just need a PMA and it'll all come good and if doesn't it'll be because of those pesky remainers not being enthusiastic enough, the unpatriotic bastards.
Made me laugh that last bit... When the remainers say "F IT, it is what it is so let's atleast try" all that positive energy will fill the nation and it'll all come good..... <<What a load of absolute bollocks 😂 😂😂
 

portisheadpete

Advisor to the Owner
Stop being so defeatist jakeywakey. It'll come good, you'll see
Itll come good. For some. Not for others. Guess who the winners will be either way. Thats the issue. Those running the show win personally whatever the outcome because theyve hedged their bets. Sadly modern Tories mostly despise the populace so have no concern for the losers in an outcome where the upside is thinly spread
 

PNEESSEX

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Itll come good. For some. Not for others. Guess who the winners will be either way. Thats the issue. Those running the show win personally whatever the outcome because theyve hedged their bets. Sadly modern Tories mostly despise the populace so have no concern for the losers in an outcome where the upside is thinly spread
Their genius is to have persuaded enough of the electorate that they do actually care about them....they're going to be very disappointed when they find out they couldn't give a shit about Workington man
 

portisheadpete

Advisor to the Owner
Their genius is to have persuaded enough of the electorate that they do actually care about them....they're going to be very disappointed when they find out they couldn't give a shit about Workington man
As in hardworkington families. The cornerstone of any banal off the shelf speech. What about lazy families. Who's looking after the bone idle. And I include those in Govt whove been handed everything on a plate and/or have lied/cheated their way to the top including declaring false degrees. This is what we need to know.
 

truenorthender

Advisor to the Owner
I agree lads.. I'm not sure where the faith that labour would be any different comes from though. Do any of them have anything they believe in or are they just pandering to people. They have to pander I get that but it just all feels hollow to me.. like, here we go again... Blame the last government then rinse and repeat, what bloody gives !!!
 

Winkytinky

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I agree lads.. I'm not sure where the faith that labour would be any different comes from though. Do any of them have anything they believe in or are they just pandering to people. They have to pander I get that but it just all feels hollow to me.. like, here we go again... Blame the last government then rinse and repeat, what bloody gives !!!
I think you'll find Labours current leader does actually believe in what he was saying, he's got the evidence to back it up, always had the courage of his convictions but the country gave him a big fat two fingers up in december.

I don't really think it's fair on those of us that didn't vote for the Latin mumbling shit show that now resides in no 10 but we are where we are.
 

NorthWestern

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I think you'll find Labours current leader does actually believe in what he was saying, he's got the evidence to back it up, always had the courage of his convictions but the country gave him a big fat two fingers up in december.

I don't really think it's fair on those of us that didn't vote for the Latin mumbling shit show that now resides in no 10 but we are where we are.
Life isn’t fair. It’s simple. Labour didn’t do enough to bring the electorate around. I also don’t see any of the current runners for leadership doing anything different 😕
 

Winkytinky

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Life isn’t fair. It’s simple. Labour didn’t do enough to bring the electorate around. I also don’t see any of the current runners for leadership doing anything different 😕
Yeah that was my point. Have you been watching the Labour leadership hustings? I'm not sure you're informed enough about the candidates to know who said what without relying on here.
 

26-0

Advisor to the Owner
Life isn’t fair. It’s simple. Labour didn’t do enough to bring the electorate around. I also don’t see any of the current runners for leadership doing anything different 😕
Yes, the electorate have chosen Boris. Let’s see how soon he fulfills all his promises to invest adequately in the NHS, the Police Service etc and how good his “oven-ready” Brexit deal is.

I guess there’ll be a few crumbs tossed northwards too sometime in 2024 to retain his “borrowed votes” (patronising f*cker)
 

jakehake

Preachs PA
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Taking back control of our fishing and eliminating all that EU red tape


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“At the very moment when we have left the EU and its real or imagined burdens, the Government is implementing the biggest piece of red tape seen by the industry. This is not an EU decision; this is a UK decision. You couldn’t make it up.”
 

portisheadpete

Advisor to the Owner
Taking back control of our fishing and eliminating all that EU red tape


erm


“At the very moment when we have left the EU and its real or imagined burdens, the Government is implementing the biggest piece of red tape seen by the industry. This is not an EU decision; this is a UK decision. You couldn’t make it up.”
Ive never really understood the presumption that post Brexit that our fishers will somehow be released from sustainability regulation on catches. A couple of years ago we were on Hastings pier watched a small trawler doing lines a mile out to sea dredging the seabed. The anglers on the pier bemoaning that this was a regular un policed activity that had drained the area of sealife. The vad government give it large about deregulation (sounds good) but it makes littlle sense in the long term in a world limited resources and expanding population. Eskimos to Massais protect and nurture their environments for the long term.
 

Sepp Blatter

Goat Molester
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Taking back control of our fishing and eliminating all that EU red tape


erm


“At the very moment when we have left the EU and its real or imagined burdens, the Government is implementing the biggest piece of red tape seen by the industry. This is not an EU decision; this is a UK decision. You couldn’t make it up.”
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Not that I am one to defend the Tory government, but what is wrong with tracking catch information? Gathering better data to help model stocks is something we have been trying to improve for decades, helping to set better quotas and promote sustainable levels of fishing.

This app should also help to reduce incidences of deliberate catch under-reporting and illegal fishing - don't see a problem with it at all.

It's not unnecessary red tape - it's another example of the UK fishing policies, with respect to sustainability, exceeding EU regulations. There are many other similar schemes undergoing implementation, such as better vessel monitoring and onboard cctv.

Did a bit of digging, and it's very interesting that the New European has reported this with glee - quoting one small fishing organization to try and make its point. Not that they have an agenda...


Plus, to be honest, 10% is a pretty decent margin of error when estimating fish weights - when I used to do it for a living, if I had been wrong by more than 10%, I would have been sacked on the spot.
 

Sepp Blatter

Goat Molester
Patron
Ive never really understood the presumption that post Brexit that our fishers will somehow be released from sustainability regulation on catches. A couple of years ago we were on Hastings pier watched a small trawler doing lines a mile out to sea dredging the seabed. The anglers on the pier bemoaning that this was a regular un policed activity that had drained the area of sealife. The vad government give it large about deregulation (sounds good) but it makes littlle sense in the long term in a world limited resources and expanding population. Eskimos to Massais protect and nurture their environments for the long term.
The UK has tried to ban destructive fishing methods on many occasions and has been overruled - generally speaking, the UK is far stricter than the EU when it comes to fishing. The EU Common Fisheries Policy is generally atrocious.
 

Liberation

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Talk about the pot and kettle, To think you’re a socialist that helps people! I just hope you dont have to help me with reading some of the smacked arse comments you make!

You are one of the worst about not agreeing with comments. Get a grip you're old enough to be better than this. Maybe you are the bully?

Not again....You're obsessed. :)
 
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raefil

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An interesting read about somebody who will have a big say in Post Brexit Britain...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/09jpSjVUpQ/dominic_cummings_battle_for_downing_street
Dare I say, stuff it, I will.

I warmed to cummings, a little, after reading that.

How can I argue with this, for example:

“Who knows what would happen to a political culture if a party embraced education and science as its defining mission and therefore changed the nature of the people running it and the way they make decisions and priorities.”
 
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