Not even Gerrard. They'll have a dedicated loan manager who will work out where is most suitable for Archer. Him rocking up at QPR wouldn't be a surprise because of the manager.Agreed, Steve Gerrard and Cameron Archer will decide where he is going NOT Steve Bruce….
I think you are being somewhat naive as to just what goes on behind the scenes at clubs who haggle For players. If both clubs want archer and we are trying to get Robinson, there will be strategists at WBA who are informing Steve Bruce. If you think it’s all sunshine and rainbows between the two parties then I think you’re wrong.I think it may be only obvious to you to be honest. Steve Bruce cannot dictate to us who we can and can’t loan and, even if that was the case and we pulled out of the race for Archer on loan, there is still no guarantee he would go to WBA.
It might take until January to agree a deal.Archer now on loan, see how he contributes/ progresses, and Robinson on a permanent in early January.
Gone to Spurs 😉Rarcherson
I think someone will nip in with a circa £3m bid late August if he's still available.It might take until January to agree a deal.
I think the reason it didn’t work out for him at SheffU was because they played him in a more central role . Not sure where he played at WBA.I don't see where the notion that Robinson wouldn't fit our system comes from. Personally think he'd compliment Riis perfectly in a front two. He's perfect at dropping into pockets of space, the opposite of what Riis strengths are. In fact I think that position suits him much more than being a wide man in a three.
So how do you reckon they will get rid of other clubs going in for him? What if Gerrard doesn’t like the way Bruce operates and treats his player. I’m not naive at all I think you are talking wet. The strategist works for WBA NOT Villa dear me.I think you are being somewhat naive as to just what goes on behind the scenes at clubs who haggle For players. If both clubs want archer and we are trying to get Robinson, there will be strategists at WBA who are informing Steve Bruce. If you think it’s all sunshine and rainbows between the two parties then I think you’re wrong.
I think the reason it didn’t work out for him at SheffU was because they played him in a more central role . Not sure where he played at WBA.
There’s usually only a one week window during loans (a week in Jan) where they could recall him. You’d hope PNE would plan for all eventualities either way.There is another thread asking the same question, started about a week ago….
I will give the same answer on here as I did on that - Robinson on a permanent because he would be our player.
Villa could take Archer back at very short notice……
You are presuming Gerrard will let Archer go out on loan again, with the way he is apparently performing and scoring in Villa's pre-season friendlies you would think there is a good possibility that Gerrard will want him at Villa challenging for a starting position.🤔I’m surprised now one has figured out that a Mexican stand off is ensuing between us, WBA, Robinson and Archer. We are all moaning about Robinson taking so long, all the while, Steve Bruce is confirmed to be chasing for Cameron archer on loan from Aston Villa. If I was Steve Bruce I’d be holding us to ransom on this. I.e - “you can have Robinson but only after we’re guaranteed to get archer and not you”.
If this is true, the following question becomes important: who would you rather, Robinson on a 3 year permanent, or archer on a years loan?
Personally, I’d take Cameron Archer. The guy is clearly going to be a world class striker and although he will Never be ours totally, he could (over the course of a season) mean promotion.
Robinson is good but he doesn’t perfectly slot into our 3-5-2 system and is less effective as an out and out striker. Therefore, if my suspicion is accurate and Bruce is trying to blackmail us, I’d be telling the money grabbing fat head Bruce to f-off and keep Robinson because we’re having super Cam!