That Trump fella.

Snicky

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I really don’t want these people to have any joy in November. They should be receiving help. They might be. In that case maybe I shouldn’t take the piss?!?!....nah fuck it, it’s too funny.

 

Winkytinky

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Who populated that graph Winky? I doubt it was the people themselves, just others putting their personal opinions of said people in the answers.
Read the article, are you going to argue that Biden is a leftie as well? because I'd seriously have to conclude you'd lost the plot. I think they are both bloody awful candidates.
 

egghead

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More than welcome to dispute it. I'd much rather a thoroughly decent Democrat (yet to come across one, think Sanders is a decent fella but don't subscribe to socialism) win. However, if the options are Trump and Biden, I am definitely pro Trump.

Remarkably decent policies. He's reduced the tax rates which led to the lowest levels of unemployment in 50 years. Number of jobs available outweighed number of people unemployed. 7 million jobs created in his term despite a prediction pre election of 2 million.

Less people in poverty than ever before. 8 million people no longer needing food parcels.

First Step Act has reduced jail terms for drug users as well as expanding early release programs for rehabilitated criminals. Along with positive humanitarian efforts to end the opioid crisis rather than penalise like Reagan and Ford.

Net worth of the bottom 50% has grown 3 times as much as it has for the top 50%.

I will reiterate that I do not support Trump, but am more than happy to say he's done some very good things for the American economy and people.



Not playing a victim at all. I identity as left of centre. I'm a paying Labour member. I'm just pointing out that the current societal narrative is that anybody who identifies as Conservative is inherently evil.

I think I've made a strong case for Trump above.

My comments were more pointing towards the fact that Trump was considered a national treasure by the majority of Americans, until he ran as a Conservative presidential candidate.

Identifying Biden as right of centre isn't doing your argument any favours.

Cut taxes for who, exactly? nobody I know unless they own a corporation and earn over $400k a year, that is for sure. Mine went up considerably and I am long way south of that, as are most mere mortals.

Trump’s legacy is riots, food banks and enabling the worst of humanity to think it’s ok to be an asshole under the guise of free speech. I have to put up with these twats driving around where I live waving guns around at anyone who isn’t clearly European and white in origin. If you haven’t seen what is actually going on here, I would really advise taking to folk that have.

also, worth noting Biden has had a stammer since his 20s.. calling someone a moron because of an actual disability is pretty low.
 

stf4ever

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Cut taxes for who, exactly? nobody I know unless they own a corporation and earn over $400k a year, that is for sure. Mine went up considerably and I am long way south of that, as are most mere mortals.

Trump’s legacy is riots, food banks and enabling the worst of humanity to think it’s ok to be an asshole under the guise of free speech. I have to put up with these twats driving around where I live waving guns around at anyone who isn’t clearly European and white in origin. If you haven’t seen what is actually going on here, I would really advise taking to folk that have.

also, worth noting Biden has had a stammer since his 20s.. calling someone a moron because of an actual disability is pretty low.

Sorry that should have read corporation tax rates.

I imagine your net wealth has accumulated over the last 4 years.

Food bank usage has been cut dramatically under Trump. Went through the roof under Obama. I suggest you look at the reported facts on that one.

Where do you live? May I suggest moving. I have family in Texas. They adore the place.

A stammer doesn't excuse for his inability to construct a coherent sentence. As a person who has also luckily overcome a stammer, I can certainly testify to this.

I can't recollect calling anybody a moron.
 

raefil

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Apologies if it comes across that way. Not at all, life's grey matter is where discussion becomes interesting.

Your original post where I called you out for implying was based on conjecture and opinion.

I won't deny you have since provided reason for your opinions.

I don't think you're grasping that I don't hold him in high esteem. I think the guy is a bit of a clown, has awful rhetoric which inflames situations despicably, and has badly managed the situation in Afghanistan. I just hold him in higher regard than Biden.

Enjoy your tea and evening.
I posted an article earlier, that made very interesting reading. I`ll see if I can dig it out again.
 

JFK-1

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I think you're coming across as rather prickly.

All the fella originally said was he would be interesting on hearing a debate on your point that USA would have been conquered.

And then you exploded for his use of the word invaded instead of conquered.

Well I think you're neglecting the fact that my last response was directed at accusations of superiority complexes. And it would surprise you that I or anyone would come across as somewhat prickly in that response? What's your opinion of how he was coming across?

As for exploded at a mention of invaded are you kidding me? What's explosive in your view? Quote me the explosive content.

And another factor is that he wasn't inviting any debate on the content of my post. He was being sarcastic and if he were honest he would admit that. But I wont hold my breath waiting for any honesty.
 

stf4ever

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This was the one here.

Ignore it at peoples peril.

Apologies, I got a fair way through but that is one of the biggest slices of opinion I've ever read. Not one source based fact at the point I got up to. I prefer reading factual information. Thank you for the time and effort however, very much appreciated.
 

egghead

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I really don’t want these people to have any joy in November. They should be receiving help. They might be. In that case maybe I shouldn’t take the piss?!?!....nah fuck it, it’s too funny.

Isn’t Route 66 long gone and now a historical cycle path or some such? That would seem a terrible bike ride through Arizona regardless. I suspect local talk radio might actually be worse though...
 

Snicky

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Read the article, are you going to argue that Biden is a leftie as well? because I'd seriously have to conclude you'd lost the plot. I think they are both bloody awful candidates.
I don’t think Biden is a leftie, I don’t know what he is. I’m not sure he does either.
I think those pulling his strings and feeding him lines are.
If elected Biden will not last the year. I’ll be surprised if he lasts until inauguration.
 

stf4ever

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Well I think you're neglecting the fact that my last response was directed at accusations of superiority complexes. And it would surprise you that I or anyone would come across as somewhat prickly in that response? What's your opinion of how he was coming across?

As for exploded at a mention of invaded are you kidding me? What's explosive in your view? Quote me the explosive content.

And another factor is that he wasn't inviting any debate on the content of my post. He was being sarcastic and if he were honest he would admit that. But I wont hold my breath waiting for any honesty.

I think you're probably right there. However, I would suggest treating online criticism like water off a ducks back. It comes with the territory.

Having re read it I can see that you're probably just a somewhat confrontational character (rather like myself) and it wasn't really an explosion. More a frustrated post.

And I genuinely think he was inviting debate on that point. I would definitely be interested in reading such debate, without being able to contribute unfortunately.
 

stf4ever

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I think the people waving guns should be dealt with so that nobody has to move.

Well that's brilliant advice for eggheads short term happiness.

But not a point I would disagree with. I just think egghead would be waiting a long time for that if that's actively going on where he is.
 

egghead

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Well that's brilliant advice for eggheads short term happiness.

But not a point I would disagree with. I just think egghead would be waiting a long time for that if that's actively going on where he is.
It is, but it was going on noticeably less until fairly recently. The lack of respect for allowing other folk just to get on with everything else that is going on is maddening, and in a lot of cases abject stupidity is seen a ‘patriotic’ (though the chap that shot one of his testicles off in Walmart after a rally was pretty amazing).
 

stf4ever

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It is, but it was going on noticeably less until fairly recently. The lack of respect for allowing other folk just to get on with everything else that is going on is maddening, and in a lot of cases abject stupidity is seen a ‘patriotic’ (though the chap that shot one of his testicles off in Walmart after a rally was pretty amazing).

What did you make of the Kyle Rittenhaus reporting?
 
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