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Only by request euro, only by request!OMG no!
Have you been flashing again Nobber 🙄😂
Don’t know how I thought the boro players were kneeling.I think most of them did.
I thought a couple had too but looking back on the highlights it was the officials, thats probs what you saw too.Don’t know how I thought the boro players were kneeling.
The old pork pies must be going
Daley Thomson
Daley Thompson accuses British athletics of racism
The former British decathlete, 60, said he may have received 'some of the negativity' he faced throughout his career due to the colour of his skin.www.dailymail.co.uk
Kris Akubusi
Linford Christie accuses police of racism after athletes were stopped
British Olympic 100m champion demands an explanation on behalf of his clients for what he condemns as an abuse of police powerswww.mirror.co.uk
Linford Christie
Black athlete's partner attacked
The boyfriend of international athlete Ashia Hansen was taken into hiding yesterday on leaving hospital after a gang of at least four racists stabbed him in the back and slashed him across the forehead. Chris Cotter, 28, was told by one of his attackers: "We warned you not to mix with niggers."www.theguardian.com
Sol Campbell
Sol Campbell calls FA 'institutionally racist' after England captaincy snub
Sol Campbell has attacked the FA as 'institutionally racist', claiming he would have been England captain for 10 years had he been whitewww.theguardian.com
Viv Anderson
Press Releases
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Ian Wright.
Arsenal legend Ian Wright says he is racially abused on daily basis amid BLM movement
Ian Wright has called out racist trolls after sharing yet more vile abuse he has received online. The Arsenal legend claims he is racially targeted on a daily basis and has urged social media compa…talksport.com
I just thought Idlook up the names you used as examples. 100% of whom have suffered racism.
and there, Mr CTH lies the problem.All the more reason then to use these people, with their consent of course, to help unify the nation, Focus on the positives of their patriotism and achievements for this country, not the negatives of any racial abuse they may have received.
Positivity is far more unifying - negativity, by its very nature, is divisive.
This is clearly going to be a topic of debate and a problem for the FA ahead of the Euros. Could be loud booing in the England games at Wembley. There were also loud boos before kick off at the Champions League final.
This is clearly going to be a topic of debate and a problem for the FA ahead of the Euros. Could be loud booing in the England games at Wembley. There were also loud boos before kick off at the Champions League final.
They had one, that everyone supported.Taking the knee has been a divisive issue since inception. With empty stadiums Sky and BT etc. were allowed to crack on indulging themselves in their echo chamber.
No matter how many times Sky or Southgate explain the intended message, some people will always associate the kneeling act with the Marxist element of BLM.
It’s been clear for a while a new campaign has been needed, one that is completely free of any political motive and everyone can get behind without excuse.
What was it?They had one, that everyone supported.
But that has been lost in the bullshit, virtue-signaling, taking the knee debacle.
The Kick it Out campaign.What was it?
Genuine question, not sure which campaign/initiative you're meaning.
*inequality, of course !If the elite footballing community wants to make a real difference in fighting racial equality, the FA should be investing more heavily in educating young footballers and in genuine grassroots campaigns that make a difference, rather than just coming up with slogans, or letting players do a gesture before a game that causes so much debate that the intended message simply doesn’t cut through.
Only just noticed the Daley Thompson bit. Didn't he once wear a 'carl Lewis is gay' T-shirt at the Olympics?All the more reason then to use these people, with their consent of course, to help unify the nation, Focus on the positives of their patriotism and achievements for this country, not the negatives of any racial abuse they may have received.
Positivity is far more unifying - negativity, by its very nature, is divisive.
I think you've hit the nail on the head with the bit in bold, people go to football matches for leisure in their valuable spare time, not to be lectured at.Think I said on the black life in America thread after the Millwall booing in December that as modern society and social media bubble, we’ve become way too accustomed to thinking that hashtags, gestures, virtue signalling, etc. makes a difference and actually resonates with all of the general public. A lot of people just don’t like it, whatever cause or social issue the gesturing is about.
In the case of football, it’s not necessarily that fans don’t agree with the cause or aim of the movement imo, it’s just that, ultimately, a lot of fans just want to turn up and watch the game of football, and they find these types of gestures and stuff irritating eventually when they go on for too long.
For example, we’ve debated on here in the past on the PNE section about how there seemed to be a minutes’ applause for someone every week at some point at Deepdale. Some people, including myself, said quite respectfully that after a while it begins to lose its meaning, and at the end of the day it’s just a game of football. I think similar attitudes have now emerged with taking the knee. Although I personally wouldn’t boo it, it’s clearly losing its meaning now and I think the footballers are slightly out of touch if they think they can go on doing it forever now supporters are back in the grounds.
If the elite footballing community wants to make a real difference in fighting racial equality, the FA should be investing more heavily in educating young footballers and in genuine grassroots campaigns that make a difference, rather than just coming up with slogans, or letting players do a gesture before a game that causes so much debate that the intended message simply doesn’t cut through.
Absolutely, it was a great gesture and did it's job, but it's just becoming a ritual now.I thought two minutes of silence for Prince Phillip was more OTT than a few seconds of players kneeling but I would never have booed it! The kneeling gesture lost its impact a while ago as others have said. However, for a while there it certainly got everyone talking about and reflecting on institutional racism and what it means while also emboldening footballers to share more publicly the disgusting racist abuse they receive (which will hopefully go some towards improving accountability on social media platforms in the future?). I thought they would have stopped the kneeling ritual before the Euros to be honest - perhaps the booing will entrench their stance on it though, so to speak.