We need to talk about Diane Abbott. Now.

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This is not a recipe. I wrote this as a series of tweets today and readers asked for it as a blog post, so here it is. Our politics may differ, so feel free to skip straight back to the recipes if that’s what you’re here for.

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT DIANE ABBOTT.

Right one of us political writer people needs to do this and it looks like it’s me. Grab a seat. I wanna talk about Diane.
Diane was first elected as an MP in 1987, the year before I was born. She has been dedicated to serving the British public for longer than I have even been alive. Hold that thought. Understand it.

Diane was the first black woman to have a seat in the House of Commons. She MADE HISTORY. Her father was welder, her mother a nurse. How many working class kids do we have in politics these days? None, really.

Diane went to Cambridge University to study history. IN THE SEVENTIES. In 2017 only 15 black kids went to Cambridge.
Diane worked for the Home Office in 1976. She was so smart they put her on a course to fast-track her career.
Diane was Race Relations Officer at the National Council for Civil Liberties from 1978 to 1980.

Diane was a TV researcher and reporter from 1978 to 1985. I know a lot of those. They’re fast thinkers, avid fact hounds, brilliant minds.
Diane’s political career began in 1982, on Westminster City Council. Then in 1987, I’ll say it again, she became the first black female MP.
In 2008, her speech on civil liberties in the counterterrorism debate won Parliamentary Speech Of The Year in the Spectator awards.
That speech is here. Watch it, and then come back. https://t.co/qNMvtilMa1

She founded the Black Child initiative, to raise educational achievements among black kids. She shared her platform.
She’s been the Shadow Minister for Public health, working tirelessly to tackle Tory cuts to children’s services, maternity care, all of it.
In September 2011, the Telegraph called her ‘one of Labours best frontbench performers’. The same Telegraph now monsters her for clicks.
Diane was one of 16 MPs to write to Miliband in 2015 asking him to commit to opposing further austerity measures. She did that for all of us. Diane was one of a tiny handful of MPs to defy the Labour whip and vote AGAINST Tory austerity cuts. Those cuts are KILLING people.

Diane has consistently voted against a reduction in spending on benefits. She has consistently voted for and campaigned for higher benefits over longer periods for people unable to work due to illness/disability.

In March she raised the issue of cuts to domestic violence services, in the House of Commons: “women and children are turned away daily”.
Diane has campaigned to help unaccompanied migrant children travelling from Greece and Italy.

Diane is a skilled orator, a quick thinker, a glorious debater, a genuine public servant and a thoroughly decent woman.

These are some of the highlights I have found in Hansard, the official record of the Houses of Parliament:
On 31st Jan 2017 – Diane was demanding to know why ESOL funding was being cut while the immigration debate focused on the importance of integration…

She has spoken on Leveson, terrorism, education, poverty, welfare, illness, disability, refugees, child sexual abuse, pro-choice abortion. Her campaigns include legal aid, civil liberties, fighting crime, sickle cell thallasemia, public transport, improving education. She has given speeches at Harvard University, for goodness sake. Have you? She has travelled to Kenya, China, Uganda, all over the world, representing the Government. Representing Britain. HAVE YOU?

And how, how has this brilliant, bright, dedicated, little black girl been thanked for 30 years of daily service to our country?
Like this. This is how you repay her. She gets this EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. FOR. THIRTY. YEARS.
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Now most of us cannot imagine what that level of abuse must be like as a one-off, let alone every single day. Let me help you with that.
I’ve been in the public eye for the last 5 years. I get abuse every single day too, but I’d imagine it’s not a tenth of what Diane gets. But let me tell you about it, and you can multiply it by ten to get some idea. Not much of an idea, as it’s not happening to you, but try.

Online abuse has made me suicidal more than once. I have taken the pills. I have stood on the train bridge. I have been driven insane. I have had periods where I have been unable to work because I am such a wreck from sustained hatred and vitriol. I have lost work. I have been literally driven insane by hatred from strangers. It interrupts, it diverts, it permeates, it seeps in, you bullying horrors. It’s there when you’re reading bedtime stories to your kids. It strangles you in your sleep. It follows you in your hand, in your head. It slowly destroys you from the inside, a rot starts to set in. You become scared to say anything, scared to be anyone. You hide. You cry.

Imagine 30 years of getting up every day and putting your suit on and going back to work to make life better for your abusers despite them.
Imagine being tough enough to withstand people hurling metaphorical rocks at you every day and to still work to improve their lives.
Imagine the dedication required to give 30 years in service to people who regularly tell you to die.

Diane Abbott is tougher than any one of you sitting here making your lame memes from behind anonymous screens. She is a titan. A pioneer.
Diane Abbott is here for women, children, food bank users, nurses, students, mothers, disabled people, refugees, every single one of us.

Diane is one of the very best members of Parliament you could EVER hope to have to stand up for you, and you have her, & you better hold her. Because if the Tories get back in tomorrow my god we are going to need Diane more than ever to stand up to their callous, brutal austerity.

If we have five more years of cuts and cruelty, we need five more years of one of its strongest opponents to face it down. We need Diane.
And so tomorrow, Stoke Newington & Hackney, go out and vote for the Diane Abbott who has worked for you for 30 years. Without hesitation.
And as someone who has also done a lot of telly, we all muck up on breakfast sofas. It’s a horrible situation but unless you’ve been there, unless you’ve tried to answer three different questions in 15 seconds to 2 million people with 6 cameras in your face before a cup of tea, you can sit down, shut up, and stop criticising people whose jobs and lives you really know bugger all about.

I’ll end this by saying – this took a few minutes of research through news archives, Wikipedia, Hansard and TheyWorkForYou. Not tabloids. Her achievements and voting record are extremely simple to find. They’re handily above. Maybe read those, not the front pages of the Mail.
I conclude by wishing Diane some well-earned rest, and all the success tomorrow. Thankyou for all you do, for all of us, every single day.
With love, as a mother, a disabled person, a former food bank user,

Jack Monroe.
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Disgusting, why aren't the police dealing with racism?

On the flip side she doesn't help herself and I don't think she should be anywhere near the front line of the Labour Party.
 

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Nobber;n3424929 said:
Disgusting, why aren't the police dealing with racism?

On the flip side she doesn't help herself and I don't think she should be anywhere near the front line of the Labour Party.
In what way doesnt she help herself?
 

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Well the interview where she messed up all her numbers didn’t help. Then there was the fake pictures she tweeted. The hypocrisy of her sons private schooling. The words she chooses when discussing race issues leave a lot to be desired as well.

She did so much great work in the past, and I’m sure she is a decent person who has great intentions and beliefs, but she has lost something on recent years and is doing herself, and the Labour Party no favours. She should continue her work behind the scenes.

just my opinion.
 

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ah she got her maths wrong?

Correct she did, yet Philip Hammond got his wrong on HS2 by £20bn, yet we rarely hear about that.

Why is it hypocrisy to send your child to a private school BTW?

Oh and shes a politician who always says things as she sees them, yet you dont like her for that reason?
 

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Said it on the other thread. I'm convinced that she's ill. I've seen her numerous times in recent months and she appears to be away with the fairies. Personally I don't believe she's doing Labour any favours either but fair play to them for sticking with her ( and her for sticking at it ).
 

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raefil;n3424938 said:
ah she got her maths wrong?

Correct she did, yet Philip Hammond got his wrong on HS2 by £20bn, yet we rarely hear about that.

Why is it hypocrisy to send your child to a private school BTW?

Oh and shes a politician who always says things as she sees them, yet you dont like her for that reason?
It’s disgraceful that people think these tweets are in any way acceptable.

Diane Abbot is not performing well when in the public eye. She appears to have suffered some sort of mental deterioration and struggles to appear coherent.
 

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The tweets against her are vile but the tweets against most women MP's are equally disgusting. Anna Soubrey was on the radio only last week saying her mother had been threatened because of her being an MP. Her mother being in her 80's! It seems any women in the public eye is a target, and its disgusting really.
 

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mozzchops;n3424969 said:
The tweets against her are vile but the tweets against most women MP's are equally disgusting. Anna Soubrey was on the radio only last week saying her mother had been threatened because of her being an MP. Her mother being in her 80's! It seems any women in the public eye is a target, and its disgusting really.
The way Soubry was treated when walking towards parliament, last week, was disgusting beyond belief.
 

John T

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The 'Snow flakes' are out today again today I see

Politics’ isn’t a particularly nice business (never has been) and as many of us have seen over the last months when 'Our Elected Representatives' are more concerned with their private beliefs than what the Country voted for
As Some famous Politicos have said over the years ‘’If you can't stand the heat don't go in the Kitchen''
Nobody is forcing many of these mediocre People to stand for Parliament

Wonder if it could have anything to do with those nice wages (which some could NEVER attain in any other Job) not to mention the 'Gold Plated Pensions' and all those expenses to fiddle and all so righteous about

NO absolutely no sympathy for any of them, IF they can’t take it DON’T join IMO
 

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JohnT
In saying the above, have you read the tweets Diane Abbot receives?
She may now be incompetent, she may have made racist or disagreeable statements in the past but some of these tweets go way beyond acceptable and in some cases legal behaviour.

I've no time for her but I will never condone evil like this.
 

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John T;n3424998 said:
The 'Snow flakes' are out today again today I see

Politics’ isn’t a particularly nice business (never has been) and as many of us have seen over the last months when 'Our Elected Representatives' are more concerned with their private beliefs than what the Country voted for
As Some famous Politicos have said over the years ‘’If you can't stand the heat don't go in the Kitchen''
Nobody is forcing many of these mediocre People to stand for Parliament

Wonder if it could have anything to do with those nice wages (which some could NEVER attain in any other Job) not to mention the 'Gold Plated Pensions' and all those expenses to fiddle and all so righteous about

NO absolutely no sympathy for any of them, IF they can’t take it DON’T join IMO
You challenge policies and strongly, if need be. Thats where it should end IMHO.

The media is complicit in all this though. Take BBC question time, for example. Last week James Cleverley was rounded on by Fiona Bruce in what I felt was far from an impartial way, this week it was Abbots turn to receive the treatment.

Sadly it looks like BBCQT is becoming Jeremy Kyle on steroids.
 

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Liberation;n3424956 said:
Said it on the other thread. I'm convinced that she's ill. I've seen her numerous times in recent months and she appears to be away with the fairies. Personally I don't believe she's doing Labour any favours either but fair play to them for sticking with her ( and her for sticking at it ).
I know she struggles at times with her diabetes.
 

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raefil;n3425013 said:
You challenge policies and strongly, if need be. Thats where it should end IMHO.

The media is complicit in all this though. Take BBC question time, for example. Last week James Cleverley was rounded on by Fiona Bruce in what I felt was far from an impartial way, this week it was Abbots turn to receive the treatment.

Sadly it looks like BBCQT is becoming Jeremy Kyle on steroids.


I quite like Bruce.... She gets stuck in when many other interviewers would back off...... Being truthful seems like a rare commodity these days........................ And I doubt I'm the only one that would like to punch Sourberry ( not her mum ) in the face for her less than honest approach to politics :)
 

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Liberation;n3425057 said:
I quite like Bruce.... She gets stuck in when many other interviewers would back off...... Being truthful seems like a rare commodity these days........................ And I doubt I'm the only one that would like to punch Sourberry ( not her mum ) in the face for her less than honest approach to politics :)
She's absolutely honest about being a remainer and always has been. Didn't seem to bother her constituents when they reelected her in 2017 did it? I'm sure they're very grateful for your outrage on their behalf. She may be a lot of things, but hiding her true feelings about Brexit isn't an area where she has ever been duplicitous
 

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John T;n3424998 said:
The 'Snow flakes' are out today again today I see

Politics’ isn’t a particularly nice business (never has been) and as many of us have seen over the last months when 'Our Elected Representatives' are more concerned with their private beliefs than what the Country voted for
As Some famous Politicos have said over the years ‘’If you can't stand the heat don't go in the Kitchen''
Nobody is forcing many of these mediocre People to stand for Parliament

Wonder if it could have anything to do with those nice wages (which some could NEVER attain in any other Job) not to mention the 'Gold Plated Pensions' and all those expenses to fiddle and all so righteous about

NO absolutely no sympathy for any of them, IF they can’t take it DON’T join IMO
Are you seriously saying that the vitriol poured on Abbott and others is acceptable simply because she's an MP? Do you really think that finding those tweets to Abbott makes someone a snowflake?

Are there others who should be able to be freely abused because of their career choices? judges? Social workers? Teachers? Football referees? Anyone else you deem to hold views you don't like that should be on the receiving end of disgusting and abusive tweets and worse?
 

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Mer5eywhite;n3425007 said:
JohnT
In saying the above, have you read the tweets Diane Abbot receives?
She may now be incompetent, she may have made racist or disagreeable statements in the past but some of these tweets go way beyond acceptable and in some cases legal behaviour.

I've no time for her but I will never condone evil like this.
As said ''If you can't stand the heat'' Get out of the kitchen

No one says she HAS to appear on Question Time

She goes on there to give her opinion, and probably get some publicity for herself and opinions, if she 'gets some stick' too bad. She doesn’t have to go on
If she hasn’t had some heckling before at Election rally’s she’s very lucky indeed

MY opinion is the Labour Party would be better keeping her off TV altogether, every time She goes on She probably loses more ‘swing Voters’ to the Tories anyway
 

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paddysr;n3425047 said:
I know she struggles at times with her diabetes.
That's right - I remember her pointing out that the interview where she struggled with numbers was the last of a few. If her blood sugar was out of kilter...

I think that she comes across as a nice lady with a good heart (I know a couple of people who say she is an excellent constituency MP) - and, a few years ago, she was sharp, incisive, and articulate. I really do worry about her health - something isn't right, IMO.

She certainly ends up with far more than her share of vile abuse when there are politicians in parliament who really are nasty pieces of work. While we all call politicians names sometimes, and it is part of their job to a certain extent, that's way beyond the pale. As Raef says, I don't like abuse during a direct debate - attack the policies, not the person.
 

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As for Tweets
If you live by the Sword? Well perhaps SHE should ask 'The Donald' It's like water off a Ducks back to Him
 

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PNEESSEX;n3425065 said:
Are you seriously saying that the vitriol poured on Abbott and others is acceptable simply because she's an MP? Do you really think that finding those tweets to Abbott makes someone a snowflake?

Are there others who should be able to be freely abused because of their career choices? judges? Social workers? Teachers? Football referees? Anyone else you deem to hold views you don't like that should be on the receiving end of disgusting and abusive tweets and worse?
Sadly the way of the world on social media - people can’t seem to accept that others have different views than them.

Instead of agreeing to disagree they spout vile insults and worse.It saddens me. - time will see it creeping into the real world and that’s a serious backwards step for society .
 
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