Israel/Palestine

What sanctions should we impose on Israel

  • None.

    Votes: 10 31.3%

  • Heavy economic and political sanctions - not dissimilar to those v Russia

    Votes: 20 62.5%

  • Notable sanctions but nothing as bad as those v Russia

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .
Sepp Blatter said:
Think it is happening at the moment so we will see how it is reported. Some mention in the media:

www.bbc.com

Palestinians in West Bank await prisoner release after ceasefire deal

Ninety Palestinians should be freed from Israeli jails in exchange for three Israeli hostages released by Hamas in Gaza.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

www.theguardian.com

Palestinian prisoners’ families say their houses were raided by Israeli forces

Israel says it will prevent ‘public displays of joy’ by families when Palestinians are released as part of Gaza ceasefire
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Yep they're all called prisoners in both and every article and media discussion
 
California_PNE said:
Yep they're all called prisoners in both and every article and media discussion
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They are prisoners, IMO, although I am not really interested in these semantic battles that detract from the important issues.

Looks like some were imprisoned for more serious crimes, others for relatively minor offences, with others held without trial, much like British internment policies in Northern Ireland - this final group is where the debate seems to focus. I am sure that we will see stories emerge over the coming weeks so that we can make up our own minds

Already seeing people who seem bent on stoking division and seeing the conflict continue. I hope they do not succeed because this has to work. We are running out of road and it is up to those seeking compromise and pragmatic solutions to stop the extremes dictating actions.
 
chorleythehord said:
You look at those scenes and it just reminds you that the hatred runs very very deep. It’s hard to see peace lasting, Trump,or no Trump.
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That is always a problem with such bitter conflicts - on the one side, Hamas and similar, driven by a violent ideology and, on the other, their counterparts in the ethno-religious fanatics and settler movement, who are equally vile. Add to that a lot of people who have lost friends and family seeking vengeance - and breaking that cycle of revenge is always the most difficult part. This process could indeed come to a shuddering halt tomorrow, next week, next month.

It is all about giving hope because I do believe that most people are not fanatics and do want peace - Israelis want to live without fear of rockets and go to the shopping mall without armed soldiers everywhere. Palestinians want their own state to live without air strikes and fear of the settlers. Those are the people you build peace around - as has happened in almost every similar conflict - and drive the ideologues and fanatics back to the margins, where they belong.
 
Sepp Blatter said:
That is always a problem with such bitter conflicts - on the one side, Hamas and similar, driven by a violent ideology and, on the other, their counterparts in the ethno-religious fanatics and settler movement, who are equally vile. Add to that a lot of people who have lost friends and family seeking vengeance - and breaking that cycle of revenge is always the most difficult part. This process could indeed come to a shuddering halt tomorrow, next week, next month.

It is all about giving hope because I do believe that most people are not fanatics and do want peace - Israelis want to live without fear of rockets and go to the shopping mall without armed soldiers everywhere. Palestinians want their own state to live without air strikes and fear of the settlers. Those are the people you build peace around - as has happened in almost every similar conflict - and drive the ideologues and fanatics back to the margins, where they belong.
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raefil said:


Jeremy, you do know this is bullshit dont you?

We all know this because a guy who moved to NZ told us so.
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It is indeed a depressingly lengthy list - it is thanks to the journalists on the ground in Gaza that we gained another perspective into what has been going on.

cpj.org

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rsf.org

Israel-Gaza war: list of journalists killed in the line of duty in Palestine, Israel and Lebanon gets longer

Since the start of the war between Israel and Hamas, Reporters Without Borders (RSF) has been gathering information about the many journalists killed in connection with their work, mainly in the Gaza Strip but also in Lebanon and Israel. RSF looks back at the circumstances of their deaths below.
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More proof that Hamas need obliterating and dismantling completely, for the long term good of the palestinian population.
Those marching in support of the Palestinians are alao marching in support of that scum.

 
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