Penalty saving

[ernest]

The penalty marathon on Tuesday will give all our opponents GK coaches a dossier on where our penaĺty takers prefer to aim for. Same for Fulham of course.
Still buzzing

It may mean that if we are heading towards penalties in any cup match in future the opposition will think they will have no chance and throw everything forward in a panic that will allow to break away and win it.

Another thing I know that years ago Andy Lonergan actually scored for us in open play with a great big drop-kick but was Tuesday the first time a keeper for us has even taken a penalty in any circumstances never mind actually scoring.

 

[Jürgen Krapp (aka S&R)]

I did wonder how big Freddie's water bottle would have to be

 

[baysidepne]

How many did Stuckmann save in his time here? (Inc JPT games)

 

[jakehake]

How many did Stuckmann save in his time here? (Inc JPT games)

2 in normal time it seems, including one from Chedwyn

Thorsten Stuckmann - Penalty statistics

This is the penalty statistic of Thorsten Stuckmann of Karriereende. The page shows how many penalties a player has taken and how many of those were scored.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

Edit:

2011/12
2 saved in this shootout

Rochdale 1-1 Preston (Nov 8, 2011) Commentary - ESPN

Play-by-play action for the Rochdale vs. Preston North End English Efl Trophy game from November 8, 2011 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

and 1 in this shootout

Preston 1-1 Chesterfield (Dec 6, 2011) Commentary - ESPN

Play-by-play action for the Preston North End vs. Chesterfield English Efl Trophy game from December 6, 2011 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

2012/13
Another 1 in this

Bury 3-3 Preston (Dec 18, 2012) Final Score - ESPN

Game summary of the Bury vs. Preston North End English Efl Trophy game, final score 3-3, from December 18, 2012 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

2013/14
1 in this and then he scored the winning penalty

Oldham 2-2 Preston (Nov 25, 2014) Final Score - ESPN

Game summary of the Oldham Athletic vs. Preston North End English Efl Trophy game, final score 2-2, from November 25, 2014 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[simo]

We all now know where Sam Greenwood will aim for.

Problem is trying to save them, the lad is deadly accurate from 12 yards.

3/3.

yep, hit it hard enough just inside either of the posts and its pretty much irrelevant if the keeper know what you're going to do or not.

 

[Lord Edgington]

I have always thought the secret to saving penalties is for a keeper to wait to see which way the ball is going before diving. Then if it is close enough or straight at him so that he doesn't have to dive at all he should have a good chance of saving it. It would mean that in order to score the penalty taker would either have to hit it so hard or so closely just inside the post that the keeper had no chance even if he guessed right. In fairness one of their players hit one of the first kind in the shootout on Tuesday where he didn't even take a run up while Greenwood's first penalty was of the second sort. Something that annoys me is if a keeper dives out of the way of a penalty that he could have just caught with no effort if he stood still - well maybe not if we are taking it but you know what I mean.

Straight from the goalkeepers Union !
Too much overthinking does not help and over crowds the mind not giving time for the instinctive reasons a person become a keeper in the first place - natural reactions - so yes, in my opinion you are correct, stand on your line, watch the player and not the ball, lots of clues are given which may help or if facing the likes of shearer (best penalty taker I’ve ever seen) come to nought as he hits it like a rocket reducing stats to meaningless nonsense

 

[Kholek]

I use to shank penalties on purpose because I use to think if I didn't know what would happen how would the keeper? Turns out it just made me look lucky when it worked and shit when it didn't. Honestly mental that I never made it.

 

[jakehake]

I’m still haunted by putting one over the bar for Broughton A Pack in the final minutes of the 1986 Cub Cup Final. Finished 0-0 on the pitches at St Anthony’s down Mill Lane.

Dave Simpson didn’t like sharing trophies with other packs

 

[Regardless]

I once scored on about 88 minutes to pull a scoreline back to 2-4. In injury time we got a penalty which I hit weakly for an easy save. It didn't seem to matter.. but a minute later I scored again. Gutted. Could have been one of the greatest sporting moments in my life!

 

[Jack Daniels]

I’m still haunted by putting one over the bar for Broughton A Pack in the final minutes of the 1986 Cub Cup Final. Finished 0-0 on the pitches at St Anthony’s down Mill Lane.

Dave Simpson didn’t like sharing trophies with other packs

My old gaff growing up playing footy.

Both with mates and for a team.

3 And In
Walley
Cuppies
Headers and Volleys
2 Touch Games

And of course, the epic 2230 hours as the summer nights eventually dim to darkness relying on the Mill Lane streetlights as floodlights and you're 25 - 8 down but... NEXT GOAL WINNER!!!!!!!!!

Perfect childhood from around 77 to 87 (aged 8 to 18) playing footy on the Top Rec (Mill Lane). Booze and the Preston nightlife (Gastons, Bodega Bar, Old Vic, Exchange, Raiders) took over in 1986 aged 17.

You missed out North End, left footed! 😂

 

[Ooh David Eyres]

There is a big difference between usual penalties in league games where teams have one or two usual first team takers and a penalty shootout against a team that is playing eleven seconds string players. Teams would have to have information on something like forty players which is virtually impossible.

In which case, freddie should have just kept diving to his right (or to his left, if the taker was left footed)

 

[Muzza]

I’m still haunted by putting one over the bar for Broughton A Pack in the final minutes of the 1986 Cub Cup Final. Finished 0-0 on the pitches at St Anthony’s down Mill Lane.

Dave Simpson didn’t like sharing trophies with other packs

I remember Dave Simpson. Think I'd just left Broughton C Pack that year to join Springfields.

 

[Ooh David Eyres]

Didn’t the second penalty takers change the direction of their kick to the opposite side of the goal .

No

 

[Ooh David Eyres]

yep, hit it hard enough just inside either of the posts and its pretty much irrelevant if the keeper know what you're going to do or not.

Not if you stand closer to the side of the nets where he is going to put it and then dive slightly early. If the taker changes their mind about where they are putting it, the indecision can put them off, especially if they are trying to put the ball in a corner which they arent used to putting it. Likely they will miss altogether.

 

[Ooh David Eyres]

There is a big difference between usual penalties in league games where teams have one or two usual first team takers and a penalty shootout against a team that is playing eleven seconds string players. Teams would have to have information on something like forty players which is virtually impossible.

If there is no data, dive to the side of his standing foot to increase the chances of going the right way.

 

[Ooh David Eyres]

yep, hit it hard enough just inside either of the posts and its pretty much irrelevant if the keeper know what you're going to do or not.

Not true if you stand closer to the corner of the net where you know the ball is going.

 

[Ooh David Eyres]

If there is data, go with the odds (ie where does the taker normally put them)? Dive that way and don’t change your mind.
If there is no data, just dive to the side of the taker’s standing foot, and don’t be fooled by the run up/eye contact etc.
I’ve not seen any official data, but it’s very obvious which is the favoured corner for the vast majority of penalties. Its not 50/50.
Sam greenwood, Harry kane etc

 

[Ooh David Eyres]

For a right footer a goalkeeper should dive right, for a left footer dive left. You would go the right way on about 70% of Pens.

For a second penalty, stand still

Ive often thought also about freaking the taker out and, for a right footer , put yourself a step or 2 nearer to that right hand post, but then dive left. The taker may decide to go for the bigger side but because it is not their natural one they are less likely to get to teh corner and you could well stop it near the middle

Markers do tend to go to either side about 50% of the time. I agree it’s more like a 70/30 split. Should always go with the odds.

 

[Drunks]

Another thing I know that years ago Andy Lonergan actually scored for us in open play with a great big drop-kick but was Tuesday the first time a keeper for us has even taken a penalty in any circumstances never mind actually scoring.

I could be wrong but have a distant recollection of Stevie Woods taking one for us in some competition.

 

[Ooh David Eyres]

Remember when John Aldridge always used to put his penalty in exactly the same place? (Opposite side to the usual side people put them nowadays). What amazed me was that 99% of the time keepers would still dive the other way! (The only time that wasn't the case was Dave beassant in the fa cup final - Wimbledon v Liverpool).