VAR

Should the Championship bring in VAR?


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Just watching the rugby. Ref mic’d up and camera’d up. Communication with players and supporters on another level in this game.

VAR would have spotted what Darnell Fisher did. Hearing a mic’d up ref describing it would have been quite something.
 
Just said much the same on the match day thread. I've no idea what goes on in a rugby match and only watch when England play. Not sure they're mic'd up at every level but the lack of dissent, consistency in decision making, is light years from that in football.

The lack of dissent is a different argument but entirely a cultural issue. And don’t go waffling on about public schoolboys in rugby union. Rugby league is about as working class as it’s possible to get and they have respect for the officials as well. Because it’s engrained in players from the top level to the bottom. For some reason the powers that be in football won’t take the responsibility to apply this in football and the game is the worse for it.

If the laws were applied properly at professional level wrt this it would be an utter shit show for a few weeks as games would be getting abandoned everywhere but teams would soon learn and this would empower refs at the grassroots level to follow suit.

WRT var I don’t really see the difference between var and var lite. To me, major game changing events should be checked ie goals, Red cards and penalties. There’s too much at stake to rely on demonstrably flawed officials. The tech is there so use it.

Thats not far off what goes on now anyway. The real big prob for me is the ludicrous way handball is dealt with now. Var has opened a can of worms there that they haven’t dealt with up to now.
 
WRT var I don’t really see the difference between var and var lite. To me, major game changing events should be checked ie goals, Red cards and penalties. There’s too much at stake to rely on demonstrably flawed officials. The tech is there so use it.

Thats not far off what goes on now anyway. The real big prob for me is the ludicrous way handball is dealt with now. Var has opened a can of worms there that they haven’t dealt with up to now.
In "VAR lite", the tech is scaled back and the scope of its involvement is reduced.

As one "EFL source" said 3 years ago: "If there is a low-cost video monitoring system that stops the real blunders but does not get into a toenail being offside or studying every handball in minute detail then that could be the best of both worlds".
 
I don’t want VAR as I believe it benefits the better more attacking teams which we are not. I would be more in favour of a challenge system like in tennis and cricket. You get 2 challenges and the captain calls the challenge rather than every goal or penalty appeal scrutinised, taking so much time out of the game.

This is what I have been saying ever since var was introduced.
It works brilliantly in so many sports from tennis and cricket to rugby (NRL especially) and ice hockey.
Why not give it a one season trial in a cup competition?
 
100 per cent I include us in that, sadly.

The time wasting we do drives me mad; it’s blatant, horrible to watch and counterproductive; refs just end up adding more time on. 🙄

I’m sure the NTT20 guys mentioned that we had the lowest ‘ball in play’ time says of any team in the league (I looked but couldn’t find the stat).

in summary, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. 🙃

I think if my Dad wasn't nearly 80 he'd have run on the pitch and strangled Freddie Woodman by now for his time wasting by now. He's so blatant with it.
 
I think if my Dad wasn't nearly 80 he'd have run on the pitch and strangled Freddie Woodman by now for his time wasting by now. He's so blatant with it.

I wouldn’t put any off the blame on the keeper, I think it comes from the management team for him to do what ge does. If they weren’t happy it is easily rectified by telling him to speed up when he has the ball.
 
VAR has ruined the live fan's experience, in favour of the home-watcher.

This is because the home-watcher is more important to the authorities (Premier League, UEFA, etc). They bring in more money.
 
VAR is a complete shambles with decisions favouring the big teams. It kills the games passion. What is really needed is a better standard of officiating. Also the linesman need to be more involved in the decision making.
 
That’s already what VAR is.

No, it’s used to check referee decisions and that can be ridiculous when it’s 5 minutes to check whether someone’s big toes is in an offside position.

a clear and obvious mistake is very different than that. The penalty decisions in the Plastics game for example.
 
I voted VAR but I suppose I'm on the fence as I think in some instances it's OK but should be limited to goals, penalties, serious foul play, all within a time limit of one minute after the incident being questioned.
 
No, it’s used to check referee decisions and that can be ridiculous when it’s 5 minutes to check whether someone’s big toes is in an offside position.

a clear and obvious mistake is very different than that. The penalty decisions in the Plastics game for example.

Totally this. Any decision that needs to be corrected after more than 30 seconds viewing by numerous external watchers, from multiple angles, with benefit of lines and slow-mo cannot, by any measure, be defined as a "clear and obvious error".

VAR has it place, no doubt. But, for goodness sake, make it work as it was originally intended for. Stop sucking the joy out of the game.
 
I voted VAR but I suppose I'm on the fence as I think in some instances it's OK but should be limited to goals, penalties, serious foul play, all within a time limit of one minute after the incident being questioned.

1 minute feels like forever when you think you’ve scored a goal.
 
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