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Is it time to take the advice of every terror expert...

Liberation said:
The way I understand it they are doing it for alah not the press releases, in which case it's pointless to not publish.... Not only that it would be like hiding away.......and you are right, it would be legal censorship( there's enough already) and an extremely slippery slope.
Just an afterthought.... If this were to be the case then can you imagine the witch hunt that would ensue ( on publc media etc ) after an atrocity, the cause of which was kept quiet?... Every chance of the wrong person being hung by the baying mob...Dangerous stuff mate.
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Agreed they aren't doing it for the press.... they most likely won't be here after the event.

They are doing it for their god
 
Edinburghwhite said:
Sadly, I think this tragedy is going to get politicised whatever. Their is mileage for both the left and right:(
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Sadly as much as any like to try and hide from it this tragedy is highly political. Not in the normal way though. The "left, " and the "right, " historically, have both had their dirty fingers in the baking of this pie.

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Edinburghwhite said:
This topic needs to be put off for another day. Everyone is still too raw to be able to engage objectively.
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Nope, here is the time to say it as it is.

Lets talk straight now.

The human rights of these individuals means jack shit to me. Its the time to stand up and take these people down. Disperse these groups and enforce our law. This needs to be done by forcing open the closed muslim isolation attitude at every level.

Get them mosque doors open, insert cameras and record what is happening. Do NOT accept an Imans word that they are preaching love behind the iron gates and blacked out windows. The same with Islamic schools, either close them down or have them so open that nobody can poison the minds of children.

Over 1000 people under suspicion? So fucking what, round them up, interrogate them, lock them up, shoot them......whatever but DO NOT use resources/cash as an excuse when our children are being fucking slaughtered.

Get rid of blatant signs of extreme religious views, BAN the face covering. This is a blatant barrier to western beliefs. Its common fucking sense!!!!

Collect the bastards who are travelling to and from the middle east. If they enter Syria, or any other blatant area of radicalisation then make it clear they aint coming back. If they do illegally, throw away the key.

Refugees, sorry but after seeing the middle aged 'kids' from Syria, when we were told we were a disgrace to question the authenticity of their claims, it stops.

All common sense that would go some way to protect our children. Extreme Islamic states are over there -----> Fit in or fuck off!!!!
 
For those saying it's the fault of Western Governments, bombing the Middle East for oil etc, can you explain why there is a lack of Christian or Yazidi terrorists attacking innocent western targets?

These people have also been bombed, displaced, killed and injured in their millions.
 
Nobber said:
Nope, here is the time to say it as it is.

Lets talk straight now.

The human rights of these individuals means jack shit to me. Its the time to stand up and take these people down. Disperse these groups and enforce our law. This needs to be done by forcing open the closed muslim isolation attitude at every level.

Get them mosque doors open, insert cameras and record what is happening. Do NOT accept an Imans word that they are preaching love behind the iron gates and blacked out windows. The same with Islamic schools, either close them down or have them so open that nobody can poison the minds of children.

Over 1000 people under suspicion? So fucking what, round them up, interrogate them, lock them up, shoot them......whatever but DO NOT use resources/cash as an excuse when our children are being fucking slaughtered.

Get rid of blatant signs of extreme religious views, BAN the face covering. This is a blatant barrier to western beliefs. Its common fucking sense!!!!

Collect the bastards who are travelling to and from the middle east. If they enter Syria, or any other blatant area of radicalisation then make it clear they aint coming back. If they do illegally, throw away the key.

Refugees, sorry but after seeing the middle aged 'kids' from Syria, when we were told we were a disgrace to question the authenticity of their claims, it stops.

All common sense that would go some way to protect our children. Extreme Islamic states are over there -----> Fit in or fuck off!!!!
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There's about 3,000 apparently. Though this number may include those linked to those under suspicion.

A bloke on 5 live this morning spoke a lot of sense. Off those 3000 who aren't British nationals - deport them. Of those 3000 who have duel nationality then remove their British nationality and then deport them. Anyone, including British nationals, who travel abroad to Lybia etc. then they aren't allowed back in.

However this needs to be allowed to be done without the amount of evidence that would be required in a court of law. He was asked about those who would be 'innocent' but would get caught up in this. "Tough. Better a few individuals are put out then we see more of our children dead on the streets."
 
Tino said:
There's about 3,000 apparently. Though this number may include those linked to those under suspicion.

A bloke on 5 live this morning spoke a lot of sense. Off those 3000 who aren't British nationals - deport them. Of those 3000 who have duel nationality then remove their British nationality and then deport them. Anyone, including British nationals, who travel abroad to Lybia etc. then they aren't allowed back in.

However this needs to be allowed to be done without the amount of evidence that would be required in a court of law. He was asked about those who would be 'innocent' but would get caught up in this. "Tough. Better a few individuals are put out then we see more of our children dead on the streets."
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Common fucking sense. If someone came in your house and you thought they were a threat you'd throw them out. Its that fucking simple.

PC bastards have had their day. Get tough and deal with it NOW.
 
Sadly as much as any like to try and hide from it this tragedy is highly political. Not in the normal way though. The "left, " and the "right, " historically, have both had their dirty fingers in the baking of this pie.
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would you go as far as to say that the East and the West have had their dirty fingers in the baking of the same pie? I would. and sons and daughters on both sides of the world are paying the price, some are prepared to die for a lie, and some probably don't even know why they are fighting, they have just been brought up knowing no different.
 
Nobber said:
Nope, here is the time to say it as it is.

Lets talk straight now.

The human rights of these individuals means jack shit to me. Its the time to stand up and take these people down. Disperse these groups and enforce our law. This needs to be done by forcing open the closed muslim isolation attitude at every level.

Get them mosque doors open, insert cameras and record what is happening. Do NOT accept an Imans word that they are preaching love behind the iron gates and blacked out windows. The same with Islamic schools, either close them down or have them so open that nobody can poison the minds of children.

Over 1000 people under suspicion? So fucking what, round them up, interrogate them, lock them up, shoot them......whatever but DO NOT use resources/cash as an excuse when our children are being fucking slaughtered.

Get rid of blatant signs of extreme religious views, BAN the face covering. This is a blatant barrier to western beliefs. Its common fucking sense!!!!

Collect the bastards who are travelling to and from the middle east. If they enter Syria, or any other blatant area of radicalisation then make it clear they aint coming back. If they do illegally, throw away the key.

Refugees, sorry but after seeing the middle aged 'kids' from Syria, when we were told we were a disgrace to question the authenticity of their claims, it stops.

All common sense that would go some way to protect our children. Extreme Islamic states are over there -----> Fit in or fuck off!!!!
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Amen to this Nobber
 
northender0602 said:
would you go as far as to say that the East and the West have had their dirty fingers in the baking of the same pie? I would. and sons and daughters on both sides of the world are paying the price, some are prepared to die for a lie, and some probably don't even know why they are fighting, they have just been brought up knowing no different.
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Thats not the ME though. Its happened all over the world since time began.

It isn't a modern problem, people fight, people are tribal and people protect what they believe in.



 
MJB said:
Thats not the ME though. Its happened all over the world since time began.

It isn't a modern problem, people fight, people are tribal and people protect what they believe in.
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Tribes tended to dispute/fight with the tribe next door.
 
The threat is within, Nobs. Sadly most want to treat the symptons, which need treating BTW, and ignore the real illness.

Were beyond sticking plasters.
 
Abedi is believed to have travelled to Syria and had "proven" links with Isis.
Gerard Collomb told French television that both British and French intelligence services had information that Abedi had been in Syria.


UNBELIEVABLE WE LET THESE SORT OF PEOPLE WANDER OUR STREETS .......
 
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