Here’s a short clip.
I recommend it.
If it doesn’t make you think that we’re all being played off, one against the other; we’ll I’d be very surprised.
I’ve thought it for a long time. That’s why I hate the obsession with protected identity characteristics. It is divisive. Look for what we have in common, not what divides us…
He does later onNot seen the film. And as we were talking about fighting for the ending of suppression of the rights of homosexual people - and you introduced the term ‘identity politics’, and the film is called ‘Pride’, I was waiting for Bill Nighey’s character to announce he was gay or something!
I still completely think you’re barking up the wrong tree though.
Pride is a superb film and 'Lesbians and Gays Support the Miners' has entered into queer folklore. It's hard to watch without wanting to cry and to have your heart filled with how awesome solidarity is.
What I would suggest is if we want to move away from identity politics we have to at least listen to marginalised groups and hold the hand out rather than keep the foot on the neck.
I still think class is one of the most tacitly supported forms of discrimination and the biggest factor in how your life will turn out, BUT a lot of time when class is mentioned it is assumed that the working class are white men, and also that women, people of colour, non cis-het people are often assumed not to be part of the working class.
So, we can show solidarity together, but also have to acknowledge that working class women are impacting by sexism, working class people who aren't white are subject to racism too. So identities are important.
But I would say cheering the lack of white men in the top jobs in government as a victory means fuck all for working class women or people of colour.
Don't know if you have seen it, Mersey, but this is the original documentary:The film reminded me of the lost mining culture (and it was a culture) of my family in the north east.
I’m not ashamed to say I cried like a baby when I watched it.
Yeah, it's really insulting for the talking heads to talk about diversity and breakthroughs as though people should be gratefulAgree with your last sentence in particular
Don't know if you have seen it, Mersey, but this is the original documentary:
Same here, TMH - I was brought up in a single parent family under Thatcher and experienced the full weight of her spite. Found there were quite a few of us involved in the anarchist and animal rights groups.As an aside, I was quite involved with anarchist groups in the 90s. There were a few middle class drop outs involved but it was remarkable how many people involved where the children from pit villages. What those families went through was never forgotten.
Thatcher radicalised a generation of lefties in my view. I consider the start of my own political education when I was 9 and asked, 'Dad, what's a scab?'
Same here, TMH - I was brought up in a single parent family under Thatcher and experienced the full weight of her spite. Found there were quite a few of us involved in the anarchist and animal rights groups.
It was the start of my political journey, too - never forgave that evil woman for what she put my mum through.
I get the same. The notion that things could fall to pieces at any time.I don't blame you and I am sorry you had that precarity growing up. I suspect there are a few on here with similar stories even if now they are okay.
I remember getting bullied at primary school because my Dad got made redundant. I didn't realise it at the time but not long after there were massive redundancies at places like Bae and Leyland Motors then everyone's Dad was signing on. Looking back I think I was picked on because a lot of other kids were going through things similar.
Even now, I am no longer poor and earn enough to pay the bills and keep a roof over my families head but I always think the rug will be pulled and we'll be in a mess. Experiencing poverty never leaves you.
I think those of us who were children at that time were politicised. The miners also to an extent but weren't they already?As an aside, I was quite involved with anarchist groups in the 90s. There were a few middle class drop outs involved but it was remarkable how many people involved where the children from pit villages. What those families went through was never forgotten.
Thatcher radicalised a generation of lefties in my view. I consider the start of my own political education when I was 9 and asked, 'Dad, what's a scab?'
With Truss actually being a remainer perhaps we will get more common sense decisions on the way forward.Now that seems fair.
The zeal of the convert suggests the opposite may also be the caseWith Truss actually being a remainer perhaps we will get more common sense decisions on the way forward.
Sefcovic seems to be a lot more pragmatic than his predecessors, too, so perhaps both sides will be more flexible. From what I have seen, I prefer Michael Martin to Leo Varadkar - he seems much better at trying to bridge divides.With Truss actually being a remainer perhaps we will get more common sense decisions on the way forward.
With Truss actually being a remainer perhaps we will get more common sense decisions on the way forward.